What supplements might cause kidney stone?

I just recently have had 2 kidney stones. They are both removed now but my doctor made me concerned and warned me that it will happen after my labor tests, he was right. It isnt very normal since i am very young (28 years old) so it is not really happening in my age if i dont do something wrong. He also saw that in my urine labor tests that some of the values are too high and some of my supplementsi can be a higher risk for new stones. I did some research and i found all sort of stuff. High vitamin Di and NACi as i read can give a higher risk. Vitamin C didnt seem to be an issue. While Vitamin B6 and Magnesium seem to disolve the problem. Does anyone has any more information on this? I am trying now to prevent my next stone...and might be beneficial for others as well.

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yoi Joy,I take about 7 - 12

yoi Joy,

I take about 7 - 12 gms of Vitamin C a day & even that could be considered by some as a conservative amount.  The vitamin C is also a "mopper" so, personally, 250 mg a day is a drop in the bug bucket!

 

Others may comment further about this.

peace

r

 

CFIDSi/ME, FMSi, MCS, IBSi, EBVi, CMV, Cpni, H1, chronic insomnia, Chronic Lyme, HME, Babesia, Natural HRT-menopause, NAC 2.4 gm,Full CAP 6-2-07, all supplementsi+Iodorol, Inositol-depression, ultra Chitosan, L lysine Pulse#27 04-19-10 1gm Flagyli/day-5 days<

Oh, yikes, this is kind of

Oh, yikes, this is kind of scary. Does that mean three times as much C as NACi each time you take NAC? That would be a large dose of C several times a day. I only take 250 mg. I've been at that dose for ages, because I was advised during some of my early iritis flareups not to take too much, as it would "push" the immunei system too hard, and I needed to dampen it down to stop the inflammationi. I always take the 250mg tablet along with the morning's NAC.

This is the first I have heard about NAC being anything other than beneficial. I will follow this thread closely, hopefully others have more solid information?

Thanks,

Joy

MCS, CFSi, FM, RAi, Uveitis, MGUS, peripheral neuropathy, High BP, low thyroid, mycoplasma. Still on 80mg Benicar (leftover from Marshall Protocol). Most supplementsi, NACi/2200.

Our bodies are complicated,

Our bodies are complicated, that is certain.  There are many underlying variables that can cause us to be ill.

I don't recall anyone here from my arrival in April 07, so far reporting kidney stones.

Go back over your diet with a fine tooth comb.  Write down what you are eating, remove any processed food & go back to basic eating if you can.

I  wonder as well if this is a reaction of the CPni in your kidney(s) & or dealing with die off porphyriai & toxins.

I heard a while ago in some kidney stone cases they could just zap them with laser? instead of invasive surgery.  Might be something to read up on, like we don't have enough already  Tongue out

you are in my prayers

r

Get well soon!

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Some says NACi is bad for

Some says NACi is bad for kidney stones and on the other hand i find this...who knows the truth now???

Kidney Stones:

NAC is an effective treatment for kidney stones where kidney stones are caused by calcium oxalate or cystine accumulation.  NAC also helps to prevent kidney stones caused by calcium oxalate or cystine.

NAC is more effective for kidney stones prevention/treatment when it is combined with magnesium (1,000 mg per day), vitamin B6 (100 mg per day) and potassium citrate (75 mg per day) - hundreds of patients have been effectively treated with this combination.  This combination is particularly effective for people who have previously had kidney stones who would like to prevent recurrences.

http://www.vitaminexpress.com/encyclopedia.php/topic/N%20Aceytl.php

 

doxy200, azith250, NACi 2400, Metroi 1250(once a month), supplementsi, vitaminsi.

interesting thoughts. I

interesting thoughts. I wonder if there is something to do with die off and porphyrins again. Ok I should probably maintain my Vitamin Di level carefully. Meaning not reducing to 0 but taking less than before. Also i think that maybe the amount would be handled by kidney's easily but can be an issue if kidney is overhelmed with porphyrins and other toxins killed by our therapy. This together might cause forming kidney stones that otherwise wouldnt happen if we have good kidney functions....what you think?
doxy200, azith250, NACi 2400, Metroi 1250(once a month), supplementsi, vitaminsi.

According to this:

According to this: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2006-aug.shtml

Does vitamin Di cause kidney stones? It may, at least for people on modern American diets. The reason this has come up is because a recent study found the relative risk for people taking 400 units of vitamin D and 1,000 mg of calcium daily was 17% higher than in the placebo group ...

...[Another study] found three things in your diet that protect against kidney stones: high potassium (46% lower relative risk), high magnesium (29% lower relative risk), and high fluid intake (29% lower relative risk). For younger men, higher dietary calcium was associated with a reduced risk of kidney stones (31% lower relative risk).

It seems likely that physiological vitamin D intakes will result in a higher relative risk for kidney stones for people on modern American diets (low potassium, low magnesium, high refined carbohydrates, high sodas, and a high acid residue). You may lower your risk of kidney stones by remaining vitamin D deficient, but then you raise your risk of dying from many other diseasesi. The best thing to do to prevent kidney stones is be sure you drink adequate fluids, be sure you have adequate magnesium (see below) and potassium in your diet, and be sure you are not in a state of low-grade metabolic acidosis. The last is important, because foods that contain potassium (vegetables and fruit), also turn your body more basic.

 

Hunter: Don't think - experiment

well the link you sent

well the link you sent mentions:

Calcium stones are more common in people who have excess levels of vitamin Di or who have an overactive parathyroid gland. 

I have had high vitamin D for about half a year now. Quite high as many people here. What do you think? Is it a risk factor then?

doxy200, azith250, NACi 2400, Metroi 1250(once a month), supplementsi, vitaminsi.

Kidney stones can be caused

Kidney stones can be caused by calcium, but it has probably some relationship to your particular ability to process calcium rather than being caused by it.   Here is a useful link that might explain things.   It appears that vitamin C is helpful rather than detrimental.

Michèle (UK) GFA: Wheldon CAP 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse.

i have no idea. My doc said

i have no idea. My doc said the numbers in my urine tests were showing a way too much in several values which indicated that i have called "kidney sand" due to high vitamin and other supplemental intake. That can cause stones...he warned me months ago but i thought a lots of water drinking will compensate it...well it didnt. I had the worst surgery of my life and i dont wanna go through this again if possible.

I had high vitamin B, C, D and NACi intake for a longer period as many of us here. I am just wondering which one of these are beneficial and which are actually helping to form stones.... 

Take Plenty Of Vitamin C:N-Acetyl Cysteine is a more stable compound than taking oral cysteine, but as it is metabolized, some N-Acetyl Cysteine may be oxidized and become insoluble. This may form kidney stones. It is therefore recommended that individuals taking NAC take 3 times as much vitamin C when taking NAC to prevent the NAC from being oxydized. 

doxy200, azith250, NACi 2400, Metroi 1250(once a month), supplementsi, vitaminsi.

Hi Vic!Just a thought, can

Hi Vic!

Just a thought, can you have kidneystones from Cpninfection in the kidney? I dont know.

Anyway hopes it does not return.

Take care,Maria

Cpni since sep 2006. Autoimmune thyroid,hypofunction.levaxin,b12+folic acidi.All classic cpn,porphyriai and toxinsymtoms.Not able to work.Selftreating cpninfection with AllicinMax(garlic), NACi, high vitamin D3. Also treating with LIFE system and shaktimat