what to do nausia

I have been having problems with eating lately. In the mornings it's seems the worst and now it has turned into severe nausia. Can anyone give some advise on what seemed to help them trough this phase. 

I also need to update my signiture as I still have not started back on my antibioticsi due to vascular issues. Maybe this could be the cause.

Thank you all.

Bonnie

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Thank Red for pointing

Thank Red for pointing that out. 

Also for me I thing nausea is one of the symptoms of porphyriai<i< so seeing if some of those measures, choleystryramine, chitosan HD,  etc might decrease it possibly.    For myself, I believe that porphyria was a part of my active chronic C.Pn. infection.    Louise

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Hi Bonnie,Nausea is a sign

Hi Bonnie,

Nausea is a sign of increased secondary porphyriai, so be sure to increase your secondary porphyria countermeasures to see if this helps with the nausea as well:

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Louise and Clammed,  My

Louise and Clammed,

  My son, what a sweet 18 year old, went with me to Target and I was able to find the Quaker steel cut oatmeal. I'm going to have to hid this one from my husband because he too loves oatmeal in the morning.

 I'll tell him I found this great oatmeal but because I care about his taste  buds, I will have to try it first. Maybe that will keep him out of it for a day or two.

 Clammed.... Thanks for the nice message, same goes to you too.

 Bonnie

 

 

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Bonnie, Please let us know

Bonnie, Please let us know what you find helpful that works for you.  

Clammed, I assume you are using gluten-free flours.  No I am not fried food free or interested in the raw food diet Wink.

I'd like to drop by and try your mix, however my involvement with cooking borders on minimal.  Staying by the stove for half an hour to be sure the oatmeal does not burn to the bottom of the pot is tedious enough for me to cook the whole can so I only have to do it every couple of weeks!

Both of my children and husband love to cook, i never discouraged then or complained about their messes in the kitchen.  Probably since my cooking was so straightforward simple they developed the yen for tastier food and in self defense started cooking!   Hanging out in the kitchen for long periods of time cooking holds no interest for me.   I do think your concoction sound yummy.   I hope someone else tries it and shares a report!    My Best to both of you,  Louise

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The H2 blockers Tagamet

The H2 blockers Tagamet (cimetidine), Pepcid (famotidine), Axid (nizatidine), Zantac (ranitidine hydrochloride) all work the same way, so if the nausea is being created by an acidic enviornment then any of these should help.

The reason I choose famoxitine is because it has a different metabolic pathway then the others which should result in less drug interactions with common drugs.

Another interesting thing I learned recently is that apparently by taking an h2 blocker, it can indirectly help a bladder infection by changing the Ph to a more alkaline state. Apparently many pathogenic bladder bacteria prefer an acidic state

We are taught to treat bladder infectionsi with cranberry juice for example which is acidic but in fact its the acid in it that will actually keep bladder infections coming back. Its really the active sugar in cranberry (d-mannose) that can treat bladder infections  by preventing bacteria from sticking to the bladder wall. This is why its a better option to take d mannose supplementsi for bladder issues as opposed to drinking straight cranberry juice which is acidic.

So, it seems that, if taking an h2 blocker, which reduces acid, you may be indirectly helping the bladder as well.

Here is a list of the alkaline vs acidic content in foods. Our drugs and infections cause us to become acidic so we need to try to eat more alkaline foods to counteract this imbalance.

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 Does anyone know it

 Does anyone know it Tagament helps with nausia too?

   Thanks for the suggestions, and the oatmeal being anti inflamatory sounds like a good idea at this point. I plan on trying that today. It seems the bacteria is alive and well in my gut.   Oh well, the fight must continue.  Thank you to all with their ideas.

Bonnie

 

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Bonnie, louise listed a good

Bonnie, louise listed a good one. Oatmeal... its anti inflamatory and supposed to be great for soothing the stomach. I love oatmeal, i wish i could eat it. Unfortunatly I have so many allergies. Yogurt is great, thank godness capi has eased up my dairy intolerance.

Louise, do you eat any gluten free fried foods at all, say as a snack? Because I created a really nice gluten free spinach/feta pocket but it needs to be fried.

Its pretty simple

You mix  feta with cooked spinach until its a creamy mix, if the feta isnt creamy then you can add goat cream cheeze as well. Add whatever else you like such as onions or garlic. Flatten the mixture into a 1/2 square and put it in the freezer. When its half frozen seperate the chunk into small squares by putting scores through the mixture. You should end up with small frozen squares when all done. Then in a seperate bowl mix chic pea or millet flour with water and salt plus any spices you like and create a batter consistancy. Dunk the frozen squares it in the batter and then throw it in the frying pan, 30-50 seconds per side. You can also roll it in dry flour after you dunk it and then pat it down into a pasty consistancy and then drop it in the fryer. This option makes a thicker dryer coating. Its important not to flip the sides until the 30 seconds are up though because if you flip it too soon the coating will come off. I use millet or chic pea basic flour + water batter for cheddar sticks as well. Thing is the cheeze need to be frozen, if not it will melt to quickly and fall out of the batter before the batter is cooked. These 2 flour batters also work for fish, and making chicken nuggets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Bonnie, im sorry that you

Hi Bonnie, im sorry that you are having nausea, its a horrible symptom, and one of the most debilitating forsure. I'd probably look into food allergies and delated-type food sensitivities.

Sometimes bladder bacteria, if they spread to the kidneys will cause nausea so maybe a course of keflex or bactim might help, alternativly you could start taking d mannose and see what happens

The drug dicetel is good for irritable bowel symptoms, which can cause nausea. Ive also taken ondansetron <spelling??? which is an anti vomiting drug for cancer patients. Its expensive and is probably not the best drug to take with vascular issues and while taking nitro since i think it can have an effect on QT intervals.

what else... lets see. I got some relief from herbs, artemesia and andrographis, and when all else fails, ativan shuts down the nausea causede by bowel spasms quite well.

As far as h2 blockers, famotidine is good because its not on the same metabolic pathway as many of our antibioticsi and common drugs.

The herb marshmallow root is supposed to be good for an irritated stomach and bowels. I use it to heal my stomach after some doses when I havnt apparently taken enough food with my doxyi<

Licorice root can be helful for an irritated stomach as well, but it causes low bp so again maybe not the best option if on a nitro patch.

Those are my best suggestions. Hope it eases off somehow eventually. It really is awful, I feel for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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also the antibioticsi and

also the antibioticsi and NACi can cause nasua

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Ive been having a lot of

Ive been having a lot of nasua in the morning lately. eating in the morning does help like Louise said. Usually swollen lymph nodes in the neck accompany it. try a teaspoon on ginger in the morning it works for me. also put some cinnammon on your oatmeal. If you find anything out let me know

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Hi Bonnie,  I wonder if in

Hi Bonnie,  I wonder if in the morning your blood sugar might be low and cause nausea.  This has happened off and on much of my life.  Since starting capi and using glucose tablets and USAmade Smarties (which are basically glucose and I have found them at Walmart) I have when this has been a problem taken one to two glucose tablets with water or 1 packet of smarties and then waited and often the nausea decreased.  Worth a try.   Also for me I thing nausea is one of the symptoms of porphyriai so seeing if some of those measures, choleystryramine, chitosan HD,  etc might decrease it possibly.    For myself, I believe that porphyria was a part of my active chronic C.Pn. infection.

I also like about a half a cup of steel cut oatmeal (I use McCann Irish Oatmeal, the one that comes in the can) and eat it atbreakfast and when I feel queezy, this works for me.  I cook up a can of it and freeze it in those small Ziploc 1 cup rounds you can get at the grocery store.  I keep half a dozen unfrozen in the refrig and the rest in the freezer.   This is my solution as I am gluten sentitive and oats are allowed.   Others use crackers, I also think there is more nutrition in the steel cut oats.

Another addition to the oatmeal is that I add plain Greek Yogurt a few tablespoons to it adds some protein and I love the slightly sour tart flavor.   Half a cup can go a long way in "sticking to my ribs".

Hope you begin to feel better.    Louise

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