Multiple Sclerosis

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Multiple Sclerosis

MS is not for Wimps- Chapter 2

Happiness may be the realization that you don't need a cape to fly (if you are Superman) or that you don't need Avonex to walk (if you have MSi). One week before I take up the Flagyli thing for the 13th time. Now that it is not just on faith that I will someday see improvement but can actually expect it makes my heart sing. The hardest part may be behind me. Those are words I never thought I would say. Maybe I will call that neurologist because he may say "Let's do an MRI." Boy, would I like that. I don't think it is a delusion that I walk, talk, and think better than I ever thought I would again during the very dark, dismal days of 2003 and 2004. I only wish I could relieve my friends on these sites of even some of their anxiety and say "LOOK, friends, no hands, no walls, no canes." But we each have to make our own ways.

So Near Yet So Far

Paul le Gac was treating people with MS by using tetracyclines and balneotherapy as early as 1960.  This was more than twenty five years before CPni was recognised as a pathogen, but even though they didn't know what they were treating or how best to do so, they achieved some very good results.<

Sriram, Cpn & MS- Great News Article from 2000

A great article covering Sriram's work with MS and patient stories<

yguner's antibiotics log

Hi all,


July 2004

I started minocycline 100mgx2 and rifadin 300mgx2 a day.The next day i felt my spinal cord was more heated than the rest of my body.On the 15th day i had 38.5 degree fever and flu like sendromes ,i stayed in the bed for 7 days.This was my first herx reaction.I also had popping ear when i open and close my mouth, just like in the airplane landings.For the next three months i havent had anything else besides popping ear and pain in my foot.

november 2004

I had my second herx reaction which was 15 days long with pain in my kidneys and my urine was like transparant jello.I had abdominal pain as severe as in my kidneys.Because my urine was like a jello i kept checking my urine visually in a plastic bottle.Every two or three days the bottom of plastic bottle was getting dark which never happened before i used antibioticsi.

December 2004

I switched to INHi 100mg.x1 rifadin 300mgx2 metronidazol 500mgx2 a day without pulses which clears the infected immunei cells from the body.For the next three months i kept taking this combination without any side effects,i had mild abdominal pain,tingling in my feet and burning sensation of my spinal cord.The bottom of the plastic bottle was dark red after i switch to this combination.

March 2005

I had the hardest herx reaction for 45 days,i lost nearly 20 kg. my brother and mother was worrying about me ,they tought i was going to die.They scared me too then i took cortisone (prednisone) to surpress my immune system which ended my herx reaction the next day.End of march i swithed to the combination of doxyi and rifadin with pulses of metronidazol.

April 2005

I had severe joint pain in my knees and my hips and severe pain in my feet.I also started having swelling in both my legs and feet.

June 2005

Swelling is all gone now but a horrible pain started in my lover spinal cord which sometimes makes me moan.

Relapsing and Remitting Multiple Sclerosis: Pathology of the Newly Forming Lesion

This important article...

LifeOnTheIce's Story: Cpn & MS

My first encounter with MS happened in December, 1987 following an enormous “flu”. The right side of my head went numb, as was my mouth and tongue. There was a questionable tingling on the left side of my body, barely discernible, that even I had doubts. That event coincided with my new job and I ignored it telling myself that it was a Bell’s palsy. The trouble was it looked much more like the fifth cranial nerve palsy and even that seemed to be more extensive than expected. I decided to ignore the whole thing. It resolved in several weeks leaving me with hyperparesthesias of my scalp for the next year or so, and permanent, almost unnoticeable minimal right upper lip atrophy.

      In April 1993, I had a sudden problem with the right eye. Vision became blurry, pinkish, there was aching in the back of the orbit. I could not ignore it this time and paid a visit to my friend the ophthalmologist. She could not see what was wrong and delegated me to a retinologist, who after the myriad of the tests was also at loss. In meantime, my mother, my husband and I, all three physicians, decided that I should take high doses of steroids which I did. We went for vacation to Arizona. I had wonderful adventures there getting swollen like a balloon from the water retention, then going into acute, prerenal failure, to be followed by a very funny diuretic phase. When I came back I had a brain MRI, which showed two lesions, related to both events. The differential diagnosis was: infarcts, migraine, and MS. My eye problem was already going away, I chose to believe it was a migraine, even though I had never had headaches, and I kept working and paying more attention to enjoying my life. Somehow, I felt it might not be long till another disaster strikes.

My romance with MS

Moved to Patient Stories< page.

"Notdoneyet's" treatment of MS for Cpn story

I was diagnosed with 95% probable MS at age 26, in 1984, following my first full blown attack, which included double vision, ringing in my ears, loss of balance, tingling all over my body as well as numbness and rigidity in my limbs. I had been burning the candle at both ends, which probably set the stage for the full declaration of MS. I recovered in a month or so and was playing slow pitch, softball quite proficiently that summer. When an MRI was introduced to the Foothills Hospital in Calgary around 1986, I was positively diagnosed.

For the next ten years or so, I pretty much ignored the disease and lived a fully active life, trying to do everything. At age 36, I hit a wall. I had moved to Nelson, BC with a new, stressful job and a much warmer, summer climate. I had played slow pitch the previous year, but never ran in Nelson, partly I think, because I quit trying to. It was hard. Walking soon became difficult.

Pilot study to examine effect of antibiotic therapy on MRI outcomes in RRMS

Journal of Neurological Science 2005 Jul 15;234(1-2):87-91

"Pilot study to examine the effect of antibiotic therapy on MRI outcomes in RRMSi"

The rights to this paper are owned by Elsevier. the whole citation can be purchased


Sriram S, Yao SY, Stratton C, Moses H, Narayana PA, Wolinsky JS.

Department of Pathology, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, TN 37212, USA.

This trial examined the safety and possible MRI and clinical effects of anti-chlamydial antibiotic therapy in relapsing-remitting MS (RRMS). Newly diagnosed MS patients were selected to participate if they showed Chlamydia pneumoniae gene in their CSF and had one or more enhancing lesions on brain magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). After a 4-month run in phase of monthly MRI, patients were randomized to receive rifampin (300 mg twice daily) and azithromycin (500 mg every other day) for 6 months or placebo (PBO). Patients then had monthly MRI on therapy and two additional scans on months 12 and 14. Lumbar punctures were repeated between months 7 and 8 and within 2 weeks of termination of the study. Data on 4 patients on treatment and 4 on PBO were available for analysis. The primary outcome measure of showing a beneficial effect on enhancing lesions was not met. However, there was a significant difference in brain parenchymal fraction loss favoring those patient receiving antibiotics compared with PBO (p< or =0.02). Three of the four patients on antibiotic therapy cleared the organism from the CSF by month 12; in the PBO group one patient cleared the organism. The reduction in atrophy in patients receiving antibiotics must be viewed with caution, due to the small number of patients studied.

David Wheldon comments on Relapses and Pseudo-relapses In Treating Cpn in Multiple Sclerosis (MS)

(Comment from David Wheldoni's site

The relapse in early relapsing-remitting MSi has a typical pathology irrespective of its location. The first visible event is the orderly, local, mass death of oligodendrocyctes, the cells which support myelini. The myelin associated with these cells then degenerates. Degenerating myelin activates an inflammatory process. When this is over, young oligodendrocytes mature and make new myelin. The clinical counterpart to this pathology (unless it occurs in a silent area) is a loss of function which worsens over several hours to two days. The loss of function remains in place until the inflammation is over and remyelinationi begins. It will thus be seen that the relapse has a definite pattern and timescale.

Some people experience strange new sensations on beginning antibiotics and are often afraid that these are relapses. While relapses can occur during the first few months of antibiotics, probably initiated by virus infections, these sensations do not fulfil the timescale criteria of true relapses and tend to change their form within a week. Sometimes, in fact, they herald a return of function. What causes these 'pseudo-relapses' I do not know, but I suspect it is rebudding of neurones which make trial-and-error connections. Synaesthesia (crossover of the senses) can sometimes result; as an example, the seeing of flashes of light when hearing a loud noise. They can be quite troubling even when improvement is taking place. Repair takes place at a cellular level; function has to be re-learned at a much higher level.

Rolling back secondary progressive MS using anti-chlamydials

This link is to Sarah Wheldon's quite eloquent story< of treating for Cpni and her recovery from MS via the protocal developed by her husband, David Wheldoni MD.

This segment written August 2005 for ThisIsMS

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