I am a bit confused.  I have read that the EBi's can be carried on red blood cells, but can they invade and infect red blood cells becoming RB's?

Mark

Paula has been taking Samento as I have said in previous posts since April 2007.  As she slowly increased the dose to the full dose back in July 2007, this was when her mucal discharge from her nose and ears started.  (She didn't have any of this prior to Samento)

After talking to our Lyme doc, he agreed that Samento may be killing the EBi's before Paula even started taking NACi in November 2007.

Reading up on the other herbs distributed by Nutramedix, it lists the herb Barberry as being good for cpni.

I just thought it was worth posting these links:-

http://www.bionatus.com/nutramedix/pdfs/antimicrobialcompared_Bs.pdf

Hi,

After Paula has taken her 14 days of Ivermectin in the new year, she will start on the Amoxicillini 500mg twice per day.  By then she will also be on 2400mg of NACi.

She has a 2 month supply of Amoxy.  It was suggested in an earlier post that maybe the doc has perscribed Amoxy, knowing she is already taking NAC, to give the EBi's a big kick where it hurts!

Paula would rather not take the Amoxy full time because there will be enough die-off of good bacteria with the other abxii's that she will be taking eventually (even with taking acidofilus).

So I have two questions to ask:-

1) Should we continue the Amoxy after this two month course (We will be taking the 2400mg NAC every day anyway)?

Hi all,

I'd like to know, what is the physical sensation of bursting a lot of EBi's at once?

I have a good reason for asking - related to the quote Daisy managed to pull up from the Stratton patent regarding the use of dithiol reducing agents to counter EB's.

many thanks,

garcia.

.. having a pity party today. It's Memorial Day weekend here in the US... beautiful, sunny day, and I can barely walk around the yard, let alone do anything physical, even driving a car.  My husband is working overtime and I am home alone... not a good day.  YET, I AM alive, just feeling a bit depressed and not knowing which way to go.

As one reads the entries on this site you learn of many challenges and hardships faced as one deals with the numerous reactions to the protocol. Many are due to the die off aspects.

It makes me wonder if somewhere in the future there could be another way that might be more tolerable and perhaps quicker. I'd like to toss out a few thoughts for different approaches that maybe someday might work(or not). Given the vast knowledge and experience of the members of this site, I invite and encourage other thoughts. Maybe there is an audience out there that might explore some of these ideas if they were captured here - you know - "plant the seed" or "put a bug in ones ear".

Here goes:

Is it essential to tackle the EBi form of the bacteria?

I ask because I've seen both opinions expressed on this site.

My problem is that I'm mercury poisoned and can't tolerate NACi. Mercury poisoned people tend to have high cysteine and so NAC is contra-indicated. I react badly to NAC and sulfur foods (I get headaches and my mind goes blank). I've had this since before I got CPni and its unlike any of the reactions I get from antibioticsi. So I'm almost certain its not CPn die-off.

Also I have really bad gut dysbiosis, so I'm loathe to take amoxicillini long term as it gives me candida.

I am still trying to get a grasp on Chlamydia Pneumoniae, I just found out on 4-11-07.  But I have been sick for awhile  .  I am just starting Antibioticsi again......eeeeek .  My symptoms have been sinus infectionsi and uppper respitory infections , Phlaringitis, Broncotitis, Asthmai.  In and out of the Dr. office the month of April, and my throat swelled shut I could go on and on.  I ended up at an Infetious disease Dr.

I was at the gym last night and reflecting on the events prior to my diagnosis with MSi and leading up to it. One of the things that stands out in my mind is that my condition worsened greatly over the course of a year just prior to the diagnosis which was happening at the very same time I was losing large amounts of weight. In fact, the onset of the active form of my condition was 2 - 3 months after I set off into attempting weight loss.

Dear Cpners: This is Chain Ganger.   Does anyone know how many 600 mg veggie capsules of NACi I should take a day?  I was diagnosed with CPNi on Nov. 7 and NAC is the first recommended supplement I've taken.  At present I'm taking 1 capsule.  Thanks for answering my question

I am very excited to present the following article that summarizes Dr. Stratton's recent observations on Chlamydia pneumoniae infection. Putting it together has contributed greatly to my own understanding of Cpni as well as to my appreciation of Dr. Stratton's generosity with his time, and his great depth of knowledge of this area. Thanks to him for his contribution.

Jim K

Recent observations by Dr