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An antibiotic used in Europe to interfere with bacterial replication.


Hi all,

I'd like to give Roxi a try having used Azithro for several months. At first Azithro was a wonder-drug for me - instantly producing improved mood, cognition and marekedly decreasing symptoms. Unfortunately the effects have waned so I'd like to give Roxi a try to keep the CPni on its toes.

For those who have tried both was there a difference in the two?

Also I currently take 500mg Azith 3 times a week (MWF). What would be the equivalent daily dose of Roxi?

I'm thinking of ordering from here<

Antibiotics useful against CPn which cross the blood brain barrier well?

I recently recovered some information from the former web site of Dr. Sririam pertaining to the usefullness of antibioticsi against Cpni and which ones will cross the blood brain barrier.  What I don't know is how accurate this information is or why some antibiotics that appear to be less effective at crossing the blood  brain barrier were chosen.  Why the latter question?  Because at least one of the doctors who have devised protocolsi did so with the specific objective of treating Multiple Sclerosisi, a neurological disease.  Crossing the blood brain barrier is critical in the success of such a treatment.

Help I am so confused

I am still trying to get a grasp on Chlamydia Pneumoniae, I just found out on 4-11-07.  But I have been sick for awhile  Cry.  I am just starting Antibioticsi again......eeeeek Foot in mouth.  My symptoms have been sinus infectionsi and uppper respitory infections , Phlaringitis, Broncotitis, Asthmai.  In and out of the Dr. office the month of April, and my throat swelled shut I could go on and on.  I ended up at an Infetious disease Dr.

12 days on... somewhat of a result!

Still off work. Lungs are a bit sore and coughy/phlegmy this morning.

I managed to get in to see my GP this morning (as opposed to next month), and found out that all my concerns had been for naught. He is only too willing to help and prescribe the abxi. So, all in all, I'm ecstatic about that. Makes it all so much easier to know that you have him on board.

One other small thing of note. I also managed to get some ointment for my eczema. I've has a nasty patch on left ankle and leg for 5 years There's only one cream that has really ever worked for any length of time, and that's Betnovate-N. Its active ingredient is neomycin. I had always assumed that it was an anti-fungal, but apparently not. It's anti-bacterial, and he was interested to learn that this works, considering everything else he was being asked to prescribe.

how long until replication stops?

 Hi everyone,

It's just a question to satisfy my curiosity.  When taking 200mg doxycycline/250mg azithromycin m w f, how long does it take before Cpni replication stops?  Does it stop completely, or is it some sort of partial stop/certain location thing?

Information would be much appreciated! 

Blue Roxy ?

Hello everyone. Ordered recently Roxythromycin online, the price was very decent. Aparently it's a generic product, made in India, MARKSANS Pharma, Roxygin 150. What is confusing to me is that it's blue in color (although before I had roxy from other manufacturers and it was white/yellowish white). Has anyone had an experience either with that generic/manufacturer or blue roxythromycin ?


Intermittent therapy, theoretical question

hi all, now, dont think i am getting ahead of myself, this question is purely theoretical for me.

I was thinking, when one gets to the intermittent therapy, from my understanding, you go on a couple of weeks of bacterial static, and then on the last five days, you take flagyli. Finishing both on the same day. With the doxyi & roxyi being taken to stop resistance building against the flagyl.

Now, i was thinking, on the day AFTER the last day, there will still be some flagyl in the system (due to serum half lifes, metabolites etc), and the doxy & roxy will be fading as well. Would this not leave you in a state where the CPni could start to replicate again (ie low bacterial statics), while flagyl is still in your system? and isnt this the situation resistance may build under?

minocyline instead of another abx?

I am on the wheldon protocol for MSi, and keep reading of the abxi minocycline. I was wondering if it could be used instead of the doxyi or roxy? or if it could be added to the regimine? I would prefer to replace an existing medication over adding, just to cut down on pills i have to swallow. Im starting to gag.

9+months on wheldon prot for MS, and still relapsing?

hi all,

I was hoping to maybe get an insight of past experience from some who had been on the abxi's for a long time (ie longer than me)

I have been on the wheldon protocol (Doxyi, Roxy with flagyli pulses) for almost 10months now, with about 13 flagyl pulses, and I still have relapses. I had a flu about two weeks ago, and that caused a relapse.

Has anyone been on the protocol this long for MSi and had relapses, that stopped later on in the protocol?

I wont stop the ABXi's as I use them as a prophylactic to stop bacterial infectionsi which also cause relapses.


Jim said here:< that no US physician would use roxithromycin, as David prescribed for me.  In actual fact many would like to, including Stratton, as he told David a couple of years ago, but it is not on the national lists.  It actually isn't on our lists either, but UK practitioners are allowed to prescribe it because it can be imported here from France.  The reason why it isn't on the national lists is because Aventis, who took over the company who originally developed the drug, feel they have newer things available and are unwilling to spend money on getting it put on the lists, that's all.  Its a delight to t

yguners antibiotics log 2

My little update for jan-06

The activity in my spinal cord changes everyday, it sometimes feels like a cat scratching or itching inside my spine and sometimes i feel light pain in the middle and lower area.This activity in my spinal cord is getting less and moving to my lower back where my first lesion appeared.Besides all this i don't have any other pain or activity in my body.Everytime i pulse Flagyl i happen to feel more activity in my spine and get more spasms all over my body though.


Taking a break for a bit

After several months on the David Wheldoni protocolsi for CPni, I can tell that it's working. I keep improving, yes, but I ache all over. As I can't take most pain pills due to my messed-up esophagus, I've tried to just tough it out.

As Ann Raynd suggested, even Atlas shrugged. I need a break. I'm *temporarily* stopping doxycycline, roxithromycin, Flagyli and NACi. I'll re-start them in a few weeks, after I've had a chance to sleep a full night without writhing in agony. I'll still take the Zocor, as this helps me rebuild and it's done a stellar job on my cholesteroli, and the antibioticsi for a UTIi, and of course the estradiol and Prevacid, but that'll be all till later this month. I'm also dropping the DHEAi, becase I'm seeing re-growth of body hair and a renewed interest in sex, neither of which appeal to me.


When I first presented with symptoms 2/03 the dr. put me on zithromax . It did nothing. However when I started minoi I herxed my head off. Is this true about zithromax?

Sarah's Unillustrated Blog

Please read this very carefully.

I mentioned in my first blog< that there was much I didn't remember about the early days of my treatment.  I have never been a terribly good record keeper, but I did start out keeping a journal.  For a few days I even added to this daily, but soon I could go for a couple of weeks without adding anything.  This period rapidly became longer and then eventually I ditched it all, probably in a fit of pique.  I had no intention then of taking part in anything like ThisisMS or this site.  If I had I might have been more circumspect.  In one way it is good that I even now only remember something when someone experiences a similar reaction themselves, because if I had a list of absolutely everything and had put it all down, then I might have risked putting ideas into someone's head.  It is better if someone new to the treatment suddenly comments about various things  -  I'm going carefully here lest I say something that hasn't been mentioned yet!  Let's take one of the most recent comments on the board about a desire for hot food: if someone has not experienced that at all, they might feel that they are not succeeding!  Then there are Karen's blue toes, or my early experience of putting my feet down to the ground when I got out of bed when the weather first turned wintry and feeling the cold floorboards, one toe turning blue and the toe nail actually coming off.  It has grown back perfectly now, by the way!
A very important thing that I want to mention here, though, is something that I only realised a few days ago when talking to someone who started antibioticsi this year, back in Early August, nearly exactly on the same date as me two years previously.  This person is just about to start his third pulse of tinidazole, timed to finish on December 25th and yet I have been saying that my only really severe reaction was during my third pulse.  It can't have been because I didn't experience it until February, so it must have been at least the fifth.  I think it is important to say this because many people are almost looking forward to feeling that something is happening yet will never experience the agonies that other people do and so might just think that they are failing somehow with the treatment, like with the ubiquitous Marshall Protocol, where if you don't go through purgatory and back several times over, you are made to feel like you failing.  Its not like that, if you don't have a build up of CPn in your limbs, you won't feel it there.  I felt nothing in the first pulse: I had already gone through the true herxheimer "almost going down with 'flu"  feeling when starting on the doxycline. It was shortly after this that I nearly gave up the treatment because we both thought it wasn't working.  Remember I was David's first chronic CPn patient.
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