Published on Cpnhelp.org - Chlamydia Pneumoniae Treatment (http://www.cpnhelp.org)

Home > forums > Cpnhelp Discussion Forum > Adjuncts- Exercise, diets, meditation, etc. people find helpful > content

Venture into the wierd
By mrhodes40
Created 06/13/2008 - 12:27pm

  • Adjuncts- Exercise, diets, meditation, etc. people find helpful
  • Antibiotics

Now this is wierd: Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation.

It is an old technique patented and approved by the FDA in the '20's. There are still a few machines around and one of them is not too far away for me to do it.
learn of it WIKI REFERENCE [1] or Alternative treatment website information here [2].

My Aunt sent me a missive from her alternative practitioner who claims this is helpful for MSi [3] and that "in the old days, this is what they did for MS and people got better" Claims like that make me nuts cause in the old days people did not do very well with MS so the assertion that there is a curative but somehow "lost" technology is very suspicious to me.

However the premise is very much in our camp: there are germs in the blood, if you withdraw a little blood and shine ultravilet light on it (just like the toothbrush sterilizing lights) then all the germs will die. If you give that blood back to the patient, they WILL have recived essentially what amounts to a vaccine for their specific germ population and their immune system will be on the trail of each of those now dead and unable to hide germs.

Of course this is dependant on a functional immune system!
Interesting huh?

What does anyone think about this off the beaten path idea? I suspect it will be expensive.......marie

___________________________________________________________
On CAPi [4]i [4] since Sept '05 for MSi [3], RAi [5]i [5], Asthmai [6]i [6], sciatica. EDSSi [7]i [7] at start 5.5.(early cane) Now 6 (cane full time) Originally on: Doxyi [8] 200, Azith 3x week, Tinii [9] cont. over summer '07, Revamp of protocol in Summer '08 by Stratton due to functional loss; clarithromy

I'd like to know what David

Submitted by speedbird on Fri, 2008-06-13 12:49.

I'd like to know what David Wheldoni [10] thinks of this process; did it fall from the radar following the wide spread concentration on abxi [11] (with the support of the drugs industry of course) or were abxi [12] just more effective? 

New Forest, UK. Progressive MSi dx 12/06 LDNi [13] 3/07 CAPi [4] 6/07: Wheldon version. Pulses so far #10

___________________________________________________________
Progressive MSi [3] dx2006. LDNi [13] & CAPi [4]: Wheldon version. All supps. Doxyi [8] 200mg. Zithi [14] 250mg. Metroi [15] 400mg.Pulses #10/16...I can because I think I can.

»

They're probably making

Submitted by Norman Yarvin on Fri, 2008-06-13 13:13.
They're probably making some vitamin Di [16] in there.
»

Norman is onto it. It was

Submitted by raven on Fri, 2008-06-13 13:42.
Norman is onto it. It was probably increasing vitamin Di [16] in the blood. I have read about this old process discussed in relation to D therapy. But then it may also directly kill organisms. I would be concerned about DNA damage to healthy cells by the UV. interesting stuff, Marie! Raven CAPi [4] since 8-05 for Cpni [17] and Mycoplasma P. for MS and/or CFSi [18]

___________________________________________________________
Feeling 98% well and going for 100! Still testing + for Cpni [17] since June '08.CAPi [4] since 8-05 for Cpn and Mycoplasma P. for MSi [3] and/or CFSi [18]. Also EBVi [19] and HHV6 NACi [20], Iodoral, T3, BHRT, Methylcobalamin injections, Nitro patch, LDNi [13] and Methylation supplementsi [21]

»

Marie,  Steve's dad has

Submitted by cypriane on Fri, 2008-06-13 16:33.

Marie,  Steve's dad has Mycosis fungoides that has progressed to lymphoma.  The Yalies have given him a slew of extracorporeal photopheresis treatments.  He was better for a few months, but it didn't hold for the long haul.  I looked into MF and Sezary's just after the diagnosis...yep, that bunch is buggy too.  For someone who is overwhelmed with multiple infectionsi [22], particularly of the intracellulari [23] type, the clean blood flows back in to a contaminated environment.  How potent in a case like that is the "vaccine" effect against the intracellular pathogens?

Joyce~caregiver-advocate in Dallas for Steve J (SPMSi [24]).  CAPi [4] since August 06, Cpni [17], Mpn, B. burgdorferi, systemic candidiasis, EBVi [19], CMV & other herpes family viral infections, elevated heavy metals, gluten+casein sensitivity. 

___________________________________________________________

Joyce~caregiver-advocate in Dallas for Steve J (SPMSi [24]).  CAPi [4] since August 06, Cpni [17], Mpn, B. burgdorferi, systemic candidiasis, EBVi [19], CMV & other herpes family viral infectionsi [22], elevated heavy metals, gluten+casein sensitivity. 

»

  Could be a kind of [25]

Submitted by Sarah on Sat, 2008-06-14 08:37.
 

Could be a kind of vaccine effect or could be vitamin Di [16] but its a bit of a woolly claim to say "in the old days, this is what they did for MSi [3] and people got better."  In the older days at the end of the nineteenth century, people like Pierre Marie thought that MS had an infective cause, so if this really made people better from MS in the twenties I doubt that it would have fallen out of favour and the auto-immunei [26] theory wouldn't have taken hold.

I've got an aunt like that but in this case it was goat serum............Sarah

An Itinerary in Light and Shadow...........

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MS in June 2007, after nearly four years, three of which intermittent.   Still slowly improving and no exacerbation since starting. EDSSi [7] was 7, now 2, less on a good day.

___________________________________________________________

Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MSi [3] in June 2007, after nearly four years, three of which intermittent.   Still slowly improving and no exacerbation since starting. EDSSi [7] was 7, now 2, less on a good day.

»
www.cpnhelp.org: devoted to the understanding and treatment of Chlamydia Pneumoniae in a variety of human diseases through combination antibiotic protocols.

Source URL (retrieved on 12/01/2008 - 2:34pm): http://www.cpnhelp.org/venture_into_the_wierd

Links:
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_blood_irradiation
[2] http://www.newhealthinsight.com/index.php/Intravenous-Therapy/Ultraviolet-Blood-Irradiation-UVBI.html
[3] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/6
[4] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/168
[5] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/22
[6] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/11
[7] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/171
[8] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/39
[9] http://www.cpnhelp.org/chlamydia_pneumoniae/an_0
[10] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/36
[11] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/38
[12] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/93
[13] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/170
[14] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/41
[15] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/44
[16] http://www.cpnhelp.org/chlamydia_pneumoniae/vita
[17] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/167
[18] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/163
[19] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/120
[20] http://www.cpnhelp.org/chlamydia_pneumoniae/supp
[21] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/63
[22] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/58
[23] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/114
[24] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/183
[25] http://www.cpnhelp.org/print/4619#comment-34945
[26] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/64