I've been giving some thought to what the next step is with respect to what I can do/add to my treatment protocol that will further push the envelope so that I cover more then what I'm currently doing. My reasons for thinking about this is that I want to be sure to catch everything that might be causing the problems I have, want to get to the root cause and elminate it.
Consequently, I was giving some thought to trying Lauricidin. I've never tried it and I know a few people here have. I've read the literature on it and I wonder whether someone with the advanced degree of treatment that I'm already undertaking would be served by using Lauricidin or if it would be a waste of money?
My thoughts are that it would best be active against Cpni [1] in the EBi [2] form and probably have little effect against RBs or CBs. That my conclusion from what I believe I know about it but I know I may be wrong in that. Feel free to correct me if I am, I would appreciate that.
Even so, there are many other organisms in the micro biological world beyond Cpn that may be active as henchmen. I'm thinking that Lauricidin as one of the broadest agents I could use that would address more pathogens. I'm wondering what the common thought on that would be?
Thanks for any thoughts or input into this, I appreciate it.
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all my best
John
RRMSi [3]i [3]/EDSSi [4]i [4] was 4.5, 5, now 6 on Wheldon Protocol (naci [5], doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]i [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily 08/19/2007. Added INHi [7]i [7] 300mg/daily 03/17/2008 stopped 05/08
Links:
[1] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/167
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[3] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/184
[4] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/171
[5] http://www.cpnhelp.org/chlamydia_pneumoniae/supp
[6] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/44
[7] http://www.cpnhelp.org/chlamydia_pneumoniae/anti
[8] http://www.cpnhelp.org/any_suggestions
[9] http://www.cpnhelp.org/sunbathing_not_recommende
[10] http://www.cpnhelp.org/print/4275#comment-31454
[11] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/164
[12] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/63
[13] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/57
[14] http://www.cpnhelp.org/print/4275#comment-31467
[15] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/168
[16] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/38
[17] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/183
[18] http://www.cpnhelp.org/glossary/term/120
[19] http://www.cpnhelp.org/taxonomy/term/58
By the way, in addition to
By the way, in addition to the stuff in my signature line below, I'm also taking Annotto Tocotrienols 120mg daily already.
all my best
John
RRMSi [3]/EDSSi [4] was 4.5, was 4.???, now 5 on Wheldon Protocol (naci [5], doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily on 08/19/2007. Added INHi [7] 300mg/daily on 03/17/2008.
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all my best
John
RRMSi [3]/EDSSi [4] was 4.5, 5, now 6 on Wheldon Protocol (naci [5], doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily 08/19/2007.
Added INHi [7] 300mg/daily 03/17/2008stopped 05/08Hi, I was not sick with [10]
Hi,
I was not sick with this horrendous relapse of CFIDSi [11] or autoimmune disease a couple of months ago, but I'll tell you my experience with Lauricidin. My whole family had the flu and was sick in bed for weeks. I had to take care of them and was so afraid to get the flu because i knew I would be bed bound for months (as I am now). I took Lauricidin during this time period and never got the flu. I was amazed. I am a little concerned to take it now though, because I don't know what kind of die-off it might cause when I am in the thick of this relapse.
I'm curious to know what happens if you decide to use it. It is inexpensive to try for a couple of months.
Spiralgal
Spiralgal, you touched on
Spiralgal, you touched on part of the reason I posted this subject. My perception of Lauricidin is that it would only be effective against the EBs (inter-cellular) form on Cpni [1] and not anything beyond that. Consequently, I would say that for you, having only recently started the CAP (correct me if I'm wrong here) that yeah, it is more of something to be aware of when trying to meter the die off reactions you'll be getting. I'm not so sure about how much it affects all the other organisms that it inhibits and what kind of die off results when you take it.
How long did you take it when you took it and how much of a reaction did yu experience at the time?
all my best
John
RRMSi [3]/EDSSi [4] was 4.5, was 4.???, now 5 on Wheldon Protocol (naci [5], doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily on 08/19/2007. Added INH 300mg/daily on 03/17/2008.
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all my best
John
RRMSi [3]/EDSSi [4] was 4.5, 5, now 6 on Wheldon Protocol (naci [5], doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily 08/19/2007.
Added INHi [7] 300mg/daily 03/17/2008stopped 05/08farandwide-i see your point
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doxy200, azith250, NACi [5] 2400, Metroi [6] 1250(once a month), supplementsi [12], vitaminsi [13].
Veressv I don't have a point [14]
Veressv
I don't have a point when it comes to Cpni [1] except maybe to say that I may be wrong that it only affects the EBi [2] form and it may also affect RBs and CBs. I don't know if that is the case for sure and hope someone with more knowledge about it will chime in.
Now, with respect to Spiralgal, I would say that if she's new at starting the CAPi [15] to get familiar with how she responds to it before worrying about adding anything like Lauricidin. As you point out, NACi [5] will address EBs and the other abxi [16] will address the other forms in due time.
With respect to me and someone who is advanced in the CAP, taking Lauricidin might be a good option to broaden the number of microbes that are addressed , particularly if the response to the CAP has been not as significant as hoped.
all my best
John
RRMSi [3]/EDSSi [4] was 4.5, was 4.???, now 5 on Wheldon Protocol (nac, doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily on 08/19/2007. Added INHi [7] 300mg/daily on 03/17/2008.
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all my best
John
RRMSi [3]/EDSSi [4] was 4.5, 5, now 6 on Wheldon Protocol (naci [5], doxycycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei [6]) since 04/12/2006. Added Rifampin 2x150mg/daily 08/19/2007.
Added INHi [7] 300mg/daily 03/17/2008stopped 05/08Hi John, I've held off in
Hi John, I've held off in order to see who might come forward and reveal themselves as a Lauricidin user. This is not an answer to your question, but you can mull it over. Last year Dr. X suggested that Steve abstain from the Lauricidin from 2 days before, during, and until 2 days after flagyli [6] pulses in order to tone down the pulses. I can't say exactly what that means. With regard to how effective it is against a broad range of pathogens, I believe it helps the cause, but it's not a wholesale killer. In August, we will have been using Lauricidin for two years. You will not find studies other than those posted on the Med-Chem Labs site to tell you the answers to your questions. Not enough money in it to justify the investment for trials and studies.
Joyce~caregiver-advocate in Dallas for Steve J (SPMSi [17]). CAPi [15] since August 06, Cpni [1], Mpn, B. burgdorferi, systemic candidiasis, EBVi [18], CMV & other herpes family viral infectionsi [19], elevated heavy metals, gluten+casein sensitivity.
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Joyce~caregiver-advocate in Dallas for Steve J (SPMSi [17]). CAPi [15] since August 06, Cpni [1], Mpn, B. burgdorferi, systemic candidiasis, EBVi [18], CMV & other herpes family viral infectionsi [19], elevated heavy metals, gluten+casein sensitivity.