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What to do
By Rachelb01
Created 04/22/2008 - 6:48pm

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So it's been almost four months of being on the capi [1] and I am starting to feel a little better, less sore, still have headaches but not everyday, and still tired.  I continue to get a die off rash here and there and I still have a few sinus problemsi [2].  I went to the dr.yesterday for a check up and he told me he wants me to start my first pulse on the first and then start coming off all the abxi [3].  Isn't that kinda soon?  When he first put me on it he said it would be for a year and now all of a sudden he's changing his mind without even running more labs.  What should I do?

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CAPi [1] for Cpni [4]i [4] 1/08. Symptoms of CFSi [5]i [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6]i [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Supplementsi [8]i [8], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9]i [9] pulses.

CAPi for Cpni 1/08.

Submitted by Rachelb01 on Tue, 2008-04-22 18:50.
CAPi [1] for Cpni [4] 1/08. symptoms of CFSi [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9] pulses.

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CAPi [1] for Cpni [4] 1/08. Symptoms of CFSi [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Supplementsi [8], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9] pulses.

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Only one pulse and then come

Submitted by Jim K on Tue, 2008-04-22 19:12.

Only one pulse and then come off the antibioticsi [3]? And you are getting improvements of the "untreatable illness?" This doesn't make sense either both in terms of the CAPi [1] nor your positive response to treatment. Why is he having you do a pulse at all? I think you need to get him to explain his rationale for this change, why he would stop a treatment that is apparently helping you, what medical indicators are you showing that would make him rethink your treatment, etc.. Is he getting cold feet because of how it would look to colleagues? What? 

CAP for Cpni [4] 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi [5] & FMSi [10]. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, Tinii [11] 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Iodoral 50mg, T4 & T3

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CAPi [1] for Cpni [4] 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi [5] & FMSi [10]. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii [11] 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

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It's odd indeed that he

Submitted by speedbird on Tue, 2008-04-22 19:16.

It's odd indeed that he should say one thing then do another. Did you supply him with information from this site in the first place? It's understood here that we are in for the long haul of at least one or more years. I would ask him directly what his reasons are for departing from the accepted treatment model.

Of course he could just be a bit forgetful and not have looked at your notes - it has been known... 

New Forest, UK. Progressive MSi dx 12/06 LDNi [12] 3/07 CAPi [1] 6/07: Wheldon version.

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Progressive MSi [13] dx2006. LDNi [12] & CAPi [1]: Wheldon version. All supps. Doxyi [6] 200mg. Zithi [14] 250mg. Metroi [9] 400mg.Pulses #17...I can because I think I can.

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He didn't explain why he

Submitted by Rachelb01 on Tue, 2008-04-22 19:42.

He didn't explain why he wants me to start going off of it.  And it's weird because I didn't know anything about cpni [4] until he tested me for it and he's the one that directed me to this site.

CAPi [1] for Cpn 1/08. Symptoms of CFSi [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Supplementsi [8], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9] pulses.

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CAPi [1] for Cpni [4] 1/08. Symptoms of CFSi [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Supplementsi [8], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9] pulses.

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well, that is kind of wierd

Submitted by ruthless1 on Tue, 2008-04-22 22:28.

well, that is kind of wierd Rachel,  It is pretty cool to have a doc refer you to here though.

you are making progress & this doc is saying you should now stop!  I have to agree with JimK, why both doing a pulse at all then.

I too had an improvement in pain & headache after a few months on the abxi [3] while still having to master the die off symptoms after starting to pulse.

My doctor says "what doctor wouldn't want their patient to get well"  I think it is a good point.

You are entitled to a reason for this decision he has made for you.  Does he have an alternative treatment he hasn't shared with you?  I know when you are ill it is hard to stand up when you are right there in front of him & things come to you after you are already home.  My husband came with me to all the appointments I had for the LTDI insurer as he was sure I wasn't able to handle all the "details" due to my severe fog.  I have also had improvement there, though I know I have more CPni [4] to clean up.

Maybe we can find another doc for you if this one doesn't work out.

CFIDSi [15]/ME 25yrs, FMSi [10], IBSi [16], EBVi [17], Cpn, (insomnia - melatonini [18], GABA, tarazadone, triazolam, novocycloprine, allergy formula, 3 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NACi [7] 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, Pulse8 750mg 4day,375X1 3-24-8

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CFIDSi [15]/ME 32 yrs, FMSi [10], IBSi [16], EBVi [17], CMV, Cpni [4], H1, chronic insomnia, Lymes, HME, Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 3 gm, Full CAP 6-2-08, all supplementsi [8] +Sea Kelp, Chitosan Pulse 16 1-4-09 1gm Flagyli [9]/day-3 days

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Rachel, Your question is

Submitted by MacKintosh on Tue, 2008-04-22 23:47.
Rachel, Your question is 'what to do'. What you need to do is prepare for any and all eventualities. What I would do is line up another doctor, order meds from the internet or stockpile whatever I could from the prescriptions I already have, and then listen to what the doctor has to say before making any rash decisions. Take along the simplest copy of the protocol you can, like Dr. Wheldon's schedule of treatment page, and remind your doctor of what it says. Perhaps it IS just a misinterpretation. Get ready to move on, though, because if he pulls you off prematurely, you'll likely be right back where you started and have to do it all again. That's just not fair.

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.  Mohandas Gandhi

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The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

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Rachel, MacKintosh is being

Submitted by Louise on Wed, 2008-04-23 09:22.

Rachel, MacKintosh is being bold in her statement to you and I have to say that I agree with her.  I am on my third doctor and satisfied currently.  I continued alone for several months interview a doctor who wanted me to switch to an herbal protocol so he manipulated by ordering a lab that he know would be skyhigh, my third doctor said that test was to general to be of value, but it was almost another 3 months before I was able to locate and book with #3 with whom I am well pleased currently.    Self treat is not recommended but it is done in a pinch.  A number of us here have been pinched.

Louise

CFSi [5]/ME.

CPnPositive.BbPositive.

WheldonCAPbegan6/24/07. NowNAC,Doxyi [6], Roxi, TiniPulse#5 day 4 in process. Cholestyramine at BedtimeforPhorphoria&liposacarideEndotoxinDie-OffExperiences. treatment.

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Louise  CFSi [5],CPNi [4]+/Bb+(Lyme) Cholestyramine 1-2 pks @ HS for Porphyriai [19] +fattyEndotoxins HS PRN, Wheldon CAPi [1] 6/07,all supps, Doxyi [6] 200QD, Roxi 300BID, Tinidazole 500 BIDx20day Pulses, VitD3-10,000IU,Iodoral25mg,SAM-e100mgQD+B-vits, Pyruvate3.75Gm at 1PM

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Well I guess if push comes

Submitted by Rachelb01 on Wed, 2008-04-23 20:17.

Well I guess if push comes to shove, I do have the prescription refills for the abxi [3] until January'09.  I guess I'll have to find out his reasonings next time I go in and if he wont continue treating me with it then I'll go on my own.

CAPi [1] for Cpni [4] 1/08. Symptoms of CFSi [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Supplementsi [8], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9] pulses.

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CAPi [1] for Cpni [4] 1/08. Symptoms of CFSi [5] and Fibromyalsia, Chronic Pain. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi [6], 250mg MWF Azith, 2400mg NACi [7], Supplementsi [8], Soon to start Metronidazolei [9] pulses.

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And, Rachel, you might want

Submitted by MacKintosh on Wed, 2008-04-23 22:00.
And, Rachel, you might want to NOT mention that to him, if that's how things end up. Wink

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.  Mohandas Gandhi

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The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

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