No Norse?

Has anyone else noticed a dearth of Scandinavians here? They are vulnerable to the same illnesses as the rest of us, and their researchers are as curious and competent as those in other countries. What are they up to? Are they looking on but just not speaking up?

We have at least one member from Sweden (sveden) but I'm sure there are some members of scandinavian descent amongst us.  There is probably quite a lot of research going on over there, after all Per Marin the co-author of the Pot Belly Syndrome is Scandinavian.   I know that a lot of research in to MS is going on as well.   But as I don't speak the language it is difficult to tell how much.

Michele: Wheldon CAP1st May 2006 for ailments including IBSi, sinusitis, alopecia">i, asthmai, peripheral neuropathy. Spokesperson for Ella started Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006 for RRMSi. Sussex UK

Michèle (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAPi 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse.

Pekko Saikku is Finnish: they'e Scaninavian.  He is talking at this conference in Ferrara in mid April:
"Chlamydia and Mycoplasma Infectionsi in humans
If you look up his name in PubMed, you will see pages of stuff.  He also appears here:< 
An Itinerary in Light and Shadow
Wheldon regime since August 2003, for very aggressive SPMSi.  Intermittent therapy after one year. 2006 still take this, now two weeks every three months.  EDSS was about 7, now 2. United Kingdom.
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MSi in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Stockholm, Sweden here.
There are alot of chronic illness in Sweden.
Most people new at least one workmate or friend.
Sickness is invisable until it hits you.

We have a lot of ticks that gives TBE and borrelia.
25%-40% of blood donors are borrelia positiv depending on area.
They use blood donors as a control group for evaluating borrelia serum tests. This means that a positiv borrelia in serum does not mean any.
I have been studying borrelia and people with chronic illness of differnt diagnoses but with common symptoms for some time know and I believe more of polymicrobial balans that causes biokemical balanse that changes the way of normal reaktions. Your system is workning but not optimal.
Borrelia as an explanation is not enough.
Yes Sweden and Finland some leading borrelia experts.

Sweden is diveded in 24 regions that has it's own rules on what is an acceptable treatment. Åland is between Finland and Sweden. In Åland you will get a more aggressive treatment for borrelia than in stockholm. It's not far between Sweden/stockholm and Åland.

We have some very old communities like (50-70 years), but they are not on the Internet. One is Teeth damage that connects teeth, heavy metals, Electric/magnetic-sensitivity and chronic illness.
There are some older people with were good knowledge but they are to old for being comfortable using email or Internet. Many of the younger ones are to ill. They also want to be anonym and are told by physicans not to tell to much on forums.

Most people does not talk about and very few discuss in term OK I'm ill the GP or the specialist don't know what to do lets start an openminded discussion on what to to.
They also accept being told XXX can't be treated.
The talk is more around how to get a diagnose or what supplemnet is best.

The GP's try to convince people that it's a burnout problem and they just need to rest. Many illneses is considerd stress induced.(Not that illness causes stress)

One goal of mine is to change the discussion and handling in Sweden. Part of it must be done in swedish for swedish issues as there are people that can't use English. I hope for some kind of cooperation with others.

Stockholm, Sweden
GPS 59.36555 017.89781

/Per ----- Chronic Neuroborrliose,abxi+E-vimin+selen+Q10+B12 antrophsofic medicin and therapy. First I was afraid, I was petrified Kept thinking I could never live,Oh no, not I
I will survive


I love your phrase, " Sickness is invisible until it hits you." How true, how true. I've appreciated your posts here from time to time. You clearly have a lot of work to do in Sweden. The borrealis rate is astonishing, and co infectionsi, as you note, make this all more difficult. Good luck.

CAPi for Chlamydia pneumonia since 11/04. 25yrs CFSi & FMSi- Currently: 150mg INHi, 300mg Rifampin, 200 Doxycycline, 500mg mwf Azithromycin, plus 500mg Tinidazole 2x/day pulses every two weeks. Whew! That's a lot!


CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dxi: 25+yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 250 aithromycin mwf, doxycycline 100mg BIDi, restarted Tinii pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3, 6mg Iodoral

Sickness is invisible until it hits you. it's multi dimension

  • Sickness being invisable for me ,I continued working and putting more effort to do soo resulting in additional problems.
  • Being sick I started to see the number of people being in a simular situation. They were invisble before.
  • Sick people try to be invisable for some reason(shame ?). For some it's more important to be invisable(not notised) than to recover.
  • By being invisable sick the problem is conceald and this results in there is no need for any action. This causes other problems the main is there is no money left for acute medicin and research.
/Per ----- Chronic Neuroborrliose,abxi+E-vimin+selen+Q10+B12 antrophsofic medicin and therapy. First I was afraid, I was petrified Kept thinking I could never live,Oh no, not I
I will survive

I don't belive that borrelia is the big problem.
It represents a bigger problem. In the beginning I did, but after reading Stealth Patogens by Lida Mattman(Borrowed from my Docs bookshelf) and realising that she is describing ordinary common patogens that may have some very powerful properties.

I'm negativ on normal borrelia serums tests used in Sweden.
Many of the people we meet are negativ and very sick. People getting TBE are better off. For a person with confirmed EM and positive borrelia test after mean 30 month 25% has still problems according to research in Linköping. For people with positive borrelia in Csv the number is 50%.

What is the effect of the patogen borrelia.
What is the effect of the trauma to the system ?
What is the trauma of the system causing longtime?
And does the trauma to the system need any treatment or does it heal by itself ?


/Per ----- Chronic Neuroborrliose,abxi+E-vimin+selen+Q10+B12 antrophsofic medicin and therapy. First I was afraid, I was petrified Kept thinking I could never live,Oh no, not I
I will survive

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