Ketogenic Diet

Hi All 

PaulJ on this forum introduced the idea of the ketogenic diet 

I find this works well for me 

Here is his post 

practice a ketogenic diet in which you provide your body with sufficient ketone precursors every day.  Your neurons are starved of glucose by the bacteria and need an alternative.  Ketones can be made from short-chain fats and from certain amino acids, e.g. leucine and lysine. The most important step is taking 6 fluid ounces (12 tbsp) of coconut oil per day, a little every hour or two, while keeping carb intake down. (About 200-400 calories per day from starches such as white rice, sweet potato, potato, or taro is optimal. Avoid fructose - no sugar, fructose should come from berries and limited fruit only.)

Here is the brand of coconut oil I buy: http://www.amazon.com/Nutiva-Organic-Virgin-Coconut-54-Ounce/dp/B000GAT6NG/< 

Some other therapeutic steps:

Vitamin Di<i< is important. If you haven't been tested you need 25OHD to be at least 40 ng/ml. I take 2500-5000 IU/day depending on season and strive to get as mid-day sun exposure on as much skin as possible. Supplement vitamin K2 with it.

Regular ketogenic fasts -- meaning that you con't eat carbs or protein other than the ketogenic amino acids, but do eat fats (especially the ketogenic short-chain fats in coconut oil) and fiber (e.g. vegetables). You can do a fast all day once a week or every day for 16 hours (e.g. confine carb/protein intake to 8 hour period each day).

Paleo dieting -- cut out all grains, legumes, and omega-6 fats as much as possible. Use saturated fat rich oils like butter or coconut oil. Eat low omega-6 meats like fish, beef, or lamb. Eat a fat-rich diet. Buy fatty cuts of meat, use plenty of oil or fat on your plant foods. (E.g. make mashed potatoes with butter or coconut oil, add egg yolks to food.) You want to keep carbs and protein together down to 20-35% of calories.

Iodine & selenium supplementation are important. High-dose iodine, working gradually up to 50 mg/day, is important for extracellular immunity. It won't fix brain infectionsi<i< but it will stop many co-infections, heal the gut, and prevent the further spread of your infection. Start at 1 mg/day iodine, double it every 2 weeks, wait longer to increase the dose if there are side effects. It took me 4 months to get up to 50 mg/day but it was worth it. Over the course of a year or two it might be key to fixing the CFSi.

Stay on the antibiotics (if you feel worse on them it means they're working, if you had no infections you wouldn't notice them). Fix your diet and supplementsi<i<, and be patient. Here are the most important practices summarized at my blog: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=134<.

Bless you!

Paul

This was interesting, but why is it best to avoid pulses and grains ? I get that wheat is inflammatory and raises blood sugar, but rye does not ? Why no nuts and beans ?

Is there anywhere i can read more so that i understand fully about autophagy and fasting ?

Treating PPMSi with Azithromycin 250 mg every other day, Doxyi 100 mg BiDi, Coconut oil 4 times daily,  five flagyli pulses. Been sick since June 2009. Having good success and very few symptoms.

A ketogenic diet has been instrumental in curing my depression. The benefits to the brain are phenomenal. I would be surprised if there was a single person on this forum who didn't improve on it.

Jesper, here is a link to a presentation by Lauren Cordain on the Paleo diet and MSi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZgE-S4m3kI<

Treating bipolar II depression (in remission), mild rosaceai.

Therapies: Ketogenic diet, NACi, niacinamide, melatonin">i, D3, quercetin+bromelain.

May start CAPi after breastfeeding.

I have always done best on high protein/fats, low or no carbs since my twenties - even throughout my years on the Stratton protocol...I did this diet against the the advice of what Vanderbilt suggested, because I felt best on it. But I also know of people who get very ill on high pro/fats. low carbs.

As far as iodine/ iodide, I believe in it thoroughly, but people with many health issues cannot do this easily without a lot of ill effects.  I used to get very ill when I took kelp back in the 70's. People beginning iodine/iodide MUST begin slowly, as mentioned.  I have been taking selenium since my early twenties and took that along with all the mega doses of vitamins I was used to during my years on the protocol. My high intake of antioxidantsi was thought by doctors to be the reason that i did not have leaky gut like so many who had stealth infectionsi.

As far as the statment that "if you feel worse on the antibiotics, it means they're working" I completely disagree with this. I can count on one hand the times I felt undesirable affects which I could attribute to the abxi in the 5 years I took the protocol. As I often said, I just felt better and better while on the protocol.  One of the earliest comments I remember from Dr. Stratton's followers (and I believed the statement came from Dr. S himself) was "if you consistently seem to feel better on abxi, this is a tip-off that you very likely do have Cpni."

Although he writes with authority, Paul's experiences dealing with Cpn need to be taken as only one of many directions a person can go with the protocol.  I personally would not do anything different or tell anyone else to do more than what I originally did to get my count down to within normal range.  I believe that everything else is window dressing and has nothing much to do with getting rid of the organism. 

As far as restoring good health and energy, I began dealing with other things such as hormones, metal toxicity, etc. once I got the Cpn down. Granted, I had always taken megadoses of vitamins since my early twenties and that didn't change while I was on the protocol.  But people need to take things as they are able, and prioritize the importance of the things they are going to change and to do if they hope to keep going for the long haul. 

I say get your protocol going, adding meds "as fast as you can, and no faster" as Dr. S says, kill the beasties and THEN add what you can as you are able. It is easy to get overwhelmed financially and mentally when being told to change so much at one time.

Astrodiana  

Thank you so much for the comments.

I agree with the paleo diet--which is why I struggle with the carbs. 

I have started with  organic coconut oil--several tablespoons three days in a row now. Also a super charged B complex that, for convenience sake, I purchased at GNC.  I do think I am seeing a reduction in the porphyriai symptoms.  I was feeling tortured.  :(

There is no mistaking that I have more energy and that my brain is functioning on a higher level.   I am probably 30-40 percent improved.  I am assuming it is the supplementsi.    

Today I purchased the amino acid leucine.  I also purchased an inexpensive (as they go) ice vest to help get me through some  house projects.  I work for a good hour, rest, work, rest, work etc..  This makes for  a good and productive day for me and I am grateful for it.  

I am eager to see if leucine has any favorable effect for my energy/recovery level.

I  am wondering if anyone has incorporated the coconut oil into their diet and seen a reduction in the porphyria symptoms?  Mercola is such a huge coconut oil fan--especially for Alzheimers.

I am looking into the ketogenic diet but am worried that the porphyria is going to make it unmanagable.

THANK you to all who have so generoulsy shared their time and experiences.

 Katherine 

Hi there,

Does anyone know if a ketogenic diet could kill CPNi

I have read that it might kill lyme.

Thanks!

I have not heard that but Doc Mercola believes a high fat low carb junk diet keeps cancer at bay because cancers don't eat ketones  I hope I am right on this

DAILY:  NACi 2400MG , DHEAi sublingual , vit D3 , multi vits,./ Three times  a week: B12 injections (Hydroxycobalamin). Deer antler./  Once every few months methyl B12 Methyl injections

Ketogenic diet would be impossible if you suffer flagrant porphyriai 

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Doing Thibault protocol (NACi/minoi/roxi/tinii/nattokinase)...but considering morphing to Stratton protocol

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