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Insomnia is most definately all part of this nightmare! It seems that we are passing this bug from generation to generation but something in the last few years has really triggered it to take off . I believe it is viruses. I have watched people lately develope that chronic cough and sinus troubles and with in months develope some type of chronic illness . Cancers , asma , arthritis, and more! My kids went through a period of constant insomnia , they are only 10 and 11. Supplementing and naci , along with xango juice has seemed to turn things around for now! .....chuck

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treating reiters syndrome, cronic fatigue, heart symptoms, myalgia symptoms, started with doxcycline 200mg and rifampin 300mg in jan 15/05. switched to doxyi 200mg and azithromycin 250mg m.w.f in sept 06. after being on abxi for two years now doctors dont t

The following thought is probably very simplistic, as no doubt there are many reasons for insomnia, but it is fairly common for older people to suffer from insomnia, we are told this is because older people need less sleep.   I never found this explanation very satisfactory, I'm enclined to think that Cpni could be the root cause of this especially as 70% of the over 50 population will have been exposed to Cpn at some time in their life.  

Regarding possible reasons for the apparent increase in Cpn: I'm not sure how much more Cpn infection there is than say a generation ago, but if Chuck remark is correct, there could be other reasons for more prevalence of Cpn infection: more people living in close proximity than in the past, better detection and diagnosis, people live longer than they did etc.  

 

Michele (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAP1st May 2006 . Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, Flagyli at 400mg for 7 days prior to 5 day pulses at 1200mg three weeks cycle. Spokesperson for Ella, RRMSi Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

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Michèle (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAPi 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi, At worse EDSSi 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

 In addition to porphyrins blocking GABA receptors (causing more nervous system arousal and less inhibition) and melatonini being used up for antioxidanti purposes, there could be Cpni infection of the hypothalamus or other autonomic centers. Or, it could be that the constantly circulating cytokinesi create some kind of inflammationi/arousal process. Higher circulating cytokines and sleep disturbance are characteristic of CFSi and FMSi, and certainly commonly reported here (inflammation and sleep disturbance). I would say that mine has improved over the years of treatment, I'm not lying in bed awake and "vibrating" even with sleep meds in me, but I still require sleep meds to get decent sleep.

CAPi for Chlamydia pneumonia since 11/04. 25yrs CFS & FMS- Currently: 300mg INH, 200 Doxycycline, 500mg MWF Azithromycin, 1000mg Tinii daily (Taking a break from continuous protocol)

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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

I take a big cocktail  for sleep & have similar illnesses as Jim K has. 

Melatonini I read recently, if taken in large doses, which I did take more than recommended (10 mg) depletes estrogen.  This would explain some of the hot flashings which is very slowly subsiding as the natural HRT is catching up.  I now take 1 mg at most at nite in addition to drugs listed in my signature.

Blessings

Ruth

CFIDSi/ME, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, Cpni, Babesia, insomnia (sleep- melatonin, GABA, tarazadone, temazepam, novocyclopine, allergy formula, 2 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NACi 2.5 gm, Doxyi 200 mg day pm, Azith 250 mg M/W/Fday

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CFIDSi/ME 32 yrs, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, CMV, Cpni, chronic insomnia, Lymes, HME, Natural HRT peri-M, NACi 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, Pulse#13 1240 mg X 3 days 8-7-08

Hi Jim, well, I give up.  I searched the internest & I can't find what I read last year in JUly about excesses of melatonini effecting estrogen.  At that time I was taking lots, 3 mg? 

I give, I will concede until I find the article that I read.

CFIDSi/ME 26yrs, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, CMV, Cpni, chronic insomnia, Lymes, HME, Natural HRT peri-M, NACi 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, Pulse#9 750mg 5.5 day, 4-25-8

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CFIDSi/ME 32 yrs, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, CMV, Cpni, chronic insomnia, Lymes, HME, Natural HRT peri-M, NACi 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, Pulse#13 1240 mg X 3 days 8-7-08

3mg is a lot. David Wheldoni recommends 1.5mg but reading my bottle it does say you can take 3 x 1.5mg sprays maximum. I only take 1 and only if I had a bad night the previous night.

Berkshire, UK. Diagnosed RRMSi Feb 4th 2008.

NACi 2400mg. All supplementsi. Doxyi 200mg. Zithi 250mg M/W/F.
No GP/Neuroi support. Self medicating with help from David Wheldon.
Started CAPi 20th April 2008.

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Berkshire, UK. Diagnosed RRMSi Feb 4th 2008.

NACi 2400mg. All supps. Doxyi 200mg. Zithi 250mg. Metroi 400mg.
No GP/Neuroi support. Self medicating with help from David Wheldoni.
Started CAPi 20th April 2008. First pulse June 2008

Getting crammed in on Tube trains during the daily commute with people sneezing and coughing in your face. Air con systems in office buildings that just circulate the air from one floor to another.

I always found that whenever I started a new job, I could more or less guarantee that a week later I'd be ill. 

Berkshire, UK. Diagnosed RRMSi Feb 4th 2008.

NACi 2400mg. All supplementsi. Doxyi 200mg. Zithi 250mg M/W/F.
No GP/Neuroi support. Self medicating with help from David Wheldoni.
Started CAPi 20th April 2008.

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Berkshire, UK. Diagnosed RRMSi Feb 4th 2008.

NACi 2400mg. All supps. Doxyi 200mg. Zithi 250mg. Metroi 400mg.
No GP/Neuroi support. Self medicating with help from David Wheldoni.
Started CAPi 20th April 2008. First pulse June 2008

Sleep disturbance is sure characteristic for my CFSi.  I Get to lsleep fine but wake mid cycle after about 3 hours. Have tried herbal combos, GABA, melatonini and Klonopin (clonazipan) 0.5 mg allow me a full 6 to 7 hours straight, I awake unfogged and clear.  The blessing is that after much discussion I was able to convince my provider to write me a full year script, for one tablet at bedtime.  ( also got years script for Doxyi, Azythro, and Tinidazole).

Louise

CFS/ME.CPnPositive.BbPositive.WheldonCAPbegan6/24/07. NowNAC,Doxy, Roxi, Full TiniPulses.  Cholestyramine at BedtimeforPhorphoria&liposacarideEndotoxinDie-OffExperiences as necessary.

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Louise   CFSi Began Wheldon CAPi 6/07, Occ. Cholestyramine1-2packets HS/forporphoria&endotoxini sxi, S.O.D.3TID(KAL Brand),VitD3-4000IU, MagnascentIodine 8gtts 1-2x/d, Doxy100BID,Roxi150BID,Tini500mg BIDpulses,CPnPos,BbPos.

Jim, lying awake all night and vibrating is exactly what plagued me when I had my first attack of illness in '02. Nothing I tried would stop it. Now I no longer have any insomnia---sleep like a rock. But at times when I feel die off, I get those scalp-tightening feelings and the nerves in my neck begin firing randomly. Now that I have knocked down the load quite a bit, the hyper-active nervous system is mostly quiet.

Magnesium seems to help with the hair trigger nerves--oral and in the tub with Epson salts . Sauna also helps.

And why is Cpni seemly a bigger problem now? I read that organisms mutate when exposed to Zero G. Perhaps our astronauts have been incubating a new form of Cpn over the years? Or the exposure to environmental poisons has weakened our immunei systems. Or both.

Raven

CAPi since 8-05 for Cpn and Mycoplasma P. for MS and/or CFSi

In elementary school I developed insomnia. I've had sinusitis ever since I can remember - preschool age. My insomnia isn't as bad as it used to be. I could lie awake all night vibrating. I've read it described as being on a rotisserie, turning over and over all night. Melatonini doesn't put me to sleep. Ambien puts me to sleep for 2 or 3 hours. Every other sleeping pill I've tried maybe works the first night, then never works again. I have a white noise machine. I have the bedroom blacked out. I lie on a magnetic mattress. I have on earphones playing tapes of wierd sounds to change my brain waves. I have an infrared heating pad that I move around every 15 minutes. The past few decades we've been exposed to chemicals that mimic hormones. I can see how xenoextrogens could effect melatonin. We're exposed to magnetic fields, and this is getting worse. Something is killing honey bees. Pollen from genetically modified food? Cellphone towers? Whatever combination isn't good for humans either. Combined Antibiotic Protocol minocycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei for muscle pain, insomnia, interstitial cystitisi, sinus, disphonia, dry eyes, stiff neck, veins, thyroid, TMJ.

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Combined Antibiotic Protocol minocycline, azithromycin, metronidazolei for muscle pain, insomnia, interstitial cystitisi, sinus, disphonia, dry eyes, stiff neck, veins, thyroid, TMJ.

Mites have been killing the honey bees: http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=48245

 

[Doxyi, Azith, Biaxin and Flagyli]  for rrmsi since October '05.  Added Amoxicillini 1gm twice daily and LDNi 4.5mg qhs October '07; Added Inositol[1gm] and Calcium Pyruvate[4-6gm] daily February '08, EDSSi was 6.5,

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Began Wheldon Protocol for rrmsi October '05.  Currently OFF all abxi since June 26, '08 due to severe porphyriai. Added LDN 4.5mg qhs October '07.  All supplementsi.