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"weakness, tiredness, shaking/shivering due to feeling cold, tachycardia, BP's up"

I get all those symptoms from the abxi too but I've found a good supply of slow-burning carbohydrates keeps them at bay and keeps the hunger away too. One of my favorite and most satifying meals is a chicken tostada salad made up of lots of green leaf and romaine lettuce, low fat chicken, cheese, salsa, low fat sour cream, and black beans (no tortilla). Black beans are high in carbs but take several hours to digest so they keep your hunger satisfied and your blood sugar levels even. Avoid sugar and white flour, white rice and potatoes. Eat only whole grains and mix them with proteins and fats. Nuts are good too for satisfying hunger and adding some slow-burning carbs. Try natural peanut butter on whole grain sprouted bread. Avoid fruit juice. Only eat whole fruit and mix it with fats, protein, or high-fiber foods to keep the fruit sugar from hitting your system too quickly. You shouldn't need to eat every 2 hours if you eat the right kind of carbohydrates. A good glycemic control diet is the South Beach diet so do a search for that to see what kinds of foods work well. (Ignore Phase 1 because you need your carbs)

Asthmai, chronic sinusitis/rhinitis, chronic tendonitis, hypothyroid. Jan 9, '08 started Azithromycin 1000mg/week.

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GFAi - asthmai, sinusitis/rhinitis, tendonitis, low back pain, hypothyroid. Started azi 1000mg/week Jan 9, '08. Increased azi to 250mg/day, added 20mg Benicar daily Mar 13, '08. First Flagyli pulse started June 30, '08. Added Doxyi 200mg/day Aug 16.

Rica PPMSi EDSSi 6.7 at beginning - now 2. Began CAPi Sept, 2004 with Rifampin 150 mg 2xd, Doxyi 100 mg 2xd, added regular pulses Jan 2005. Jan 2006 switched to Doxy, Azith, cont. flagyli total 48 pulses NC USA

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Rica PPMSi EDSSi 6.7 at beginning - now 2. Began CAPi Sept, 2004 with Rifampin 150 mg 2xd, Doxyi 100 mg 2xd, added regular pulses Jan 2005. Jan 2006 switched to Doxy, Azith, cont. flagyli total 52 pulses LDNi Rifampin 8/08 again NC USA

Sunni, your chicken tostada salad sounds delicious!  I'll have to pull out my South Beach Diet book and review it for recipes again.  Good advice, too :)

Jeanneroz ~CPN  4/2007; HHV6, EBVi, CFIDS/FM- diagnosed '07; IBSi, prior kidney infectionsi, food allergies, hypothyroid (RAI for Graves in 1998), Adrenal issues (hypo); prior bronchitis/sinus problemsi. 200 mg/doxyi daily & 250 mg AZITH M/W/F, supplem

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JeanneRoz~CPNi diagnosed & started protocol  4/2007, also HHV6, EBVi.  CFIDSi/FM diagnosed: 6/07; 100mg/doxyi/BID ~ 250 mg AZITH M/W/F ~1st Tinii pulse 4/17/08- 1 250 mg. tab for 2 days.  3RD pulse 7/7/2008=500 mgTINI:4day

Nata- "weakness, tiredness, shaking/shivering due to feeling cold, tachycardia, BP's up, nausea, hunger" sounds like a mix of low glucose, endotoxini reaction, porphyriai. You might need to do different things for them:

Tachycardia, tiredness, nausea, even gnawing hunger feeling (I'd get this in the past) sound like porphyria and immediate glucose in sufficient amounts (talking 3-4 tablets here) is the fastest help. Note that if you are truly hypoglycemic (overinsulin producing) this is contraindicated, but if you had normal glucose-tolerance test but hypoglycemic-like reactions, it's more likely porphyria.

Shaking/shivering, feeling cold, sound more like endotoxin: vitamin c is a stalwart.

If the protein and complex carbs approach used for hypoglycemia doesn't do it for you, it may be the porphyria and needs glucose (fast acting energy) rather than the slow acting kind.  

CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi, 500mg MWF Azith, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3

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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

I had more problems with the hypoglycemia pre-capi than I do now.

However, I have put weight on.  As annoying as that is; I have decided it is more important to rid my body of infectionsi than having to lose a few pounds.  One thing at a time.

Your symptoms sound porphria in nature too.  I take the glucose tabs, keep the good carbs up, chitosan.  I always have an organic snack with me & never leave the house without glucose & emergen C, just in case.

Last night I had a spell of the chills, temp dropped & had to power up on the toxin remedies before going off to bed.

CFIDSi/ME 25yrs, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, Cpni, (insomnia - melatonini, GABA, tarazadone, triazolam, novocyclopine, allergy formula, 3 gm tryptophan), Natural HRT peri-M, NAC 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, 1-3-08 5th pulse 1 X 375 mg 4day

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CFIDSi/ME 32 yrs, FMSi, IBSi, EBVi, CMV, Cpni, chronic insomnia, Lymes, HME, Natural HRT peri-M, NACi 2.5 gm, 6-07 Doxy 200 mg day pm, Azith 375 mg M/W/Fday, Pulse#13 1240 mg X 3 days 8-7-08

For my self I favor the Anti-Inflamtion Zone information.  It is a 40% cab, 30% protien and 30% fat balanced approach.  It also discusses the virtues of Fish Oil and I have been on this plan since 2000.

Louise CFSi/ME.CPni positive.Bb positive.

6/24/07WheldonCAPstartedDoxy&NACi.

11/3/07Roxi150mgBIDadded.

11/22/07#2PulseTinidazole500mgBIDadded.

11/27/07CholestyraminePostPulse/PorphoriaSymptomsAdded.

1/15/08 Cont.Cholesty.atBedtimeForFatigue,Brainfog,mood.

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Louise-CFSi, CPN+/Bb+ Wheldon CAPi 6/07, Cholestyramine1-2pksHSforPorphoria& Endotoxinsi, Doxy100daily,Roxi300BID,Tini500mgBIDpulses,VitD3-4000IU,MagnascentIodine,{S.O.D.3/QD[KAL Brand],+Pyruvate3.75G+SAM-eForEnergy}

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I get a very pronounced hypoglycemia-like effect about 20 minutes after taking doxycycline if I have not eaten carbohydrates beforehand.   This started at the same time I started the CAPi.  I know that people on the site have different reactions and different dietary requirements that may limit the types of carbohydrates they use, but speaking merely of my own experiences, the type of carbohydrate seem to doesn't matter as they all have worked equally well at preventing the hypoglycemia-like effect.    

CAP for M.S. since 8/2007. Currently: 100 mg Dox. (2 x day), 250 mg Zithi (3 x week). Fourth pulse metronidazolei completed 1/23/2008.

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CAPi for M.S. since 8/2007. Currently: 100 mg Dox. (2 x day), 250 mg Zithi (3 x week) ceased 3/2008, restarted 5/2008, 150 mg Roxi (2 x day) starting 3/2008, ended 5/2008. Twelfth pulse metronidazolei & INHi completed 8/28/2008.

Jim, I think your analysis is right on the money. That also scares me  - what a big load of bacteria I must have if I react so severely even to single Doxyi, not CAPi. I got very-very sick by the end of last week and had to stop Doxy. Despite quitting abxi, I continue having these attacks of dysglycemia at least once a day though they seemed to be less intense now.

I am seeing my endocrinologist this afternoon and hope he will be able to evaluate if it's a side effect of the abxi or some condition that I have developed. I am also going to get a home blood sugar monitor.

Once I get back to balance, I have to think how do I get back on CAP. It's very frustrating that I had to quit.

Thank you everyone for sharing experiences, I am utilizing every bit of info.

Nata.

Arthritis, muscle pain & twitching, sinusitis, hypertensioni, hypothyroidism Hashi's, restless legs, chronic cough, fatigue. Cpni IgGi (+), CMV IgG (+), HLA B27 (+). Doxycycline 100 mg x 2/day - stopped after 10 days due to feeling very-very sick, just couldn't take it. What to do now, what approach to take?

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Nata.

CAPi for arthritis, tendonitis, sinusitis, pelvic pain, fatigue and muscle pain. Hypertension, HypoT Hashi's. Lyme (+) and Cpnii (+