Green tea controversy?

I came across some research that suggests that green tea can inhibit the effectivness of blood thiners due to its content of vitamin k also in many green leafy veges. Vitamin k is necessary for clotting ability.

http://www.theannals.com/cgi/content/abstract/33/4/426

This information seems to be in conflict with much supported evidence of green teas benefits. Any opinions on this? 

 

Only that as someone with naturally thin blood, the green tea which I now drink every morning must be good for me.  Last summer I cut my left hand with an edge of paper and the blood dripped down my arm to my elbow and poured into my keyboard.  Of course as soon as I noticed, it started to hurt like hell.    
     
Hardly a controversy..........Sarah     
   
A Journey through Light and Shadow
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MSi in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Sarah, Im taking your comment as sarcasm. If you want people to respectand accept stratton research, why dont you be polite as opposed to sarcastic. Kind of reminds me why I dont post here anymore. I think I'll just read

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&nbs

Clammed, I'm very sorry if you took my remark as being sarcastic, something not in my nature.  I just don't understand why you think it controversial that green tea contains quite large amounts of vitamin K.  If someone is given warfarin to thin their blood, they should listen to the precautions given..........Sarah     
    
A Journey through Light and Shadow
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MSi in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

First off, I honestly didn't read Sarah's response as sarcastic. More, just a commentary on her experience with green tea and blood coagulation.

That being said, my opinion would be green tea CAN be beneficial. However, if you are on blood thinners, it should be ingested with moderation. Kind of like grapefruit juice or pineapple juice can be beneficial, but shouldn't be taken with certain antibioticsi (or certain other meds).

There's nothing wrong with using green tea, per se. We (this odd group Wink of us here) just have to be a bit more aware than most people, as to what we put in our bodies. You're doing the right thing by reading, reading and reading some more.   I know I still learn something new almost every day about this lovely disease and its treatment.

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

'Why dont you be polite instead of sarcastic.'

 

Perhaps not the best way to address someone you have never met and do not know. This used to be a very friendly site, with quite a lot of philosophy, compassion and humour: it would be a pity if that were to change.

 

(That being said, I wonder if Pai Mu Dan contains more vitamin K than Huang Shan Mao Feng? I'm drinking a cup of the former at the moment.)

D W - [Myalgia and hypertension">i (typically 155/95.) Began (2003) taking doxycycline and macrolide and later adding metronidazolei. No medication now. Morning BP typically 110/75]
Clammed, havng read your link, I can only say that drinking a gallon of green tea a day seems a trifle excessive.  I'm sure you would think the same: OBJECTIVE: To report a case of the inhibition of the effect of warfarin by green tea. CASE SUMMARY: A 44-year-old white man was receiving warfarin for thromboembolic prophylaxis secondary to a St. Jude mechanical valve replacement in the aortic position. The patient had an international normalized ratio (INR) of 3.20 approximately one month prior to entering our clinic, and an INR of 3.79 on entering our clinic. Twenty-two days later his INR was 1.37. One month later the patient's INR was 1.14. It was subsequently discovered that the patient began drinking one-half to one gallon of green tea per day about one week prior to the INR of 1.37. On discontinuation of the green tea, the patient's INR increased to 2.55. DISCUSSION: Warfarin produces anticoagulation by inhibiting production of the vitamin K-dependent clotting factors (i.e., factors II, VII, IX, X). The exogenous administration of vitamin K inhibits the effect of warfarin and reduces a patient's degree of anticoagulation. Green tea can be a significant source of vitamin K and thus antagonize the effect of warfarin. CONCLUSIONS: Warfarin is a highly effective oral anticoagulant, but it requires close monitoring to prevent complications. Patients receiving warfarin need to be routinely questioned about their intake of vitamin K-containing foods and beverages...........Sarah     
  
A Journey through Light and Shadow
Completed Stratton/Wheldon regime for aggressive secondary progressive MSi in June 2007, after four years, three of which intermittent.   Still improving bit by bit and no relapses since finishing treatment.

Another useful view on green tea.

http://www.scientistsolutions.com/t6465-+green+tea+can+enhance+the+effectiveness+of+antibioticsi.html 

MSi for more than 30 years, WP since July 08, break Jan 09-March 09. NACi 2x600mg, Doxyi 2x100mg, Roxi 2x150mg, Entizol in pulzes, LDNi, supplementsi.Since May 2013 without abxi.

On the other side green tea is known to have blood thinning properties, especially its extract EGCG.

Cured of multiple sclerosisi, stopped the Wheldon's protocol in Nov,2008. Use only LDNi.

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