Comments on CAP variations from Dr. Michael Powell

I asked Dr. Powell to comment directly on concerns that have been mentioned over time as to whether he uses the CAPi with his new patients. I received his response a number of weeks ago but have had no time to put it together in a cogent context. But continued posts on these questions has mobilized me to get his comments to our readers here. But context is, as we say, everything.

A problem with reading posts on a website such as< is that one does not really have the whole context of that particular person's illness, medical history, the complexity of what is happening in their body as a result of more and more systems being affected by more than one thing going on. While it is perfectly fitting that our site here has it's mission focus of treating Cpn via combined antibiotic (and other relevant antichlamydial agents such as Vitamin Di, tocotrienols, etc.), a physician is treating, hopefully, a patient rather than a bacterium.

I'm a clinician myself, although a psychologist rather than a physician. One of the things that becomes clear is that the particular clinical population one sees, the kind of clinical practice you have, shapes your understanding of what's needed in order to help people. If you are curious and growing as a professional, you are always learning from the particular complexity of what you see in your patients: what helps them, what doesn't; how general approaches fit and don't fit; and how you need to go beyond the standard approach to respond to what's real, where the standard prescriptive algorithms "You must always do these things and these things only..." fails utterly to help those you must care for.

A doctor who sees mostly patients with neurological problems related to chronic infection as from Cpn will get attuned to how those conditions respond and to the complex interactions of treatment with the rest of the person's health process. A physician who sees rheumatological patients learns what works well and what doesn't in that population, and the nuances of attuning treatment to the whole spectrum of patients, even to see the difference of patients who have the same disease label.

A physician who sees a lot of complicated cases has two options as a professional. One is to learn to think more broadly and reject the formulaic, in order to account for and encompass, that complexity. The other is to narrow their viewpoint to the accepted practice and say, "Well I do this, I don't know about those other things." The latter is perfectly acceptable to my thinking, as we all need to know our professional limits. But I thank God for those who are willing to grasp the former position, such as Dr. Stratton, Dr. Wheldon, and Dr. Powell amongst others, and dig deeper into things.

You see, I'm one of those complicated-type cases, and it has taken a nuanced and complex approach to get treated properly. I'd been sick so long and with so many different systems affected, and likely not just by Cpn, that it has taken a complex clinician to weed through the layers of debris, gradually clearing the tangled mess my health had become. Cpn and the CAP has been at the center of my treatment, hence my devotion to maintaining this website, but it has not been the only thing in my treatment, nor the only concern of my physician.

Dr. Powell reflects below on the questions and concerns that have evolved for him through many years of treating Cpn and other infectious inflammatory conditions in his rheumatology practice. He was among the first physicians to use Dr. Stratton's protocol actively in his practice, and has a lot of cases under his belt using the CAP. And he found out about Dr. Stratton's work through his own researches and insistent curiosity. No websites were then available to inform him. That should tell you something about his intellect and curiosity. I think his questions are good ones for any of our readers to ask and consider. They might just help us broaden our thinking the way we hope that our physicians will be willing to broaden theirs.


Dear Jim,

Thank you for bringing these concerns to my attention. I am not opposed to treating infected people with antimicrobials. But I do think we all need to ask a few important questions before we start CAP. What is it we expect from CAP? What is CAP this month? Can we clear Cpn? Is Cpn like herpes viruses that can not be cleared, only pushed back? If one has an overgrowth of Cpn does that say something about their immunei system? How many other infectionsi does the average Cpn person have? Do you treat the viruses first or second? Could the viruses flare while you are stirring up die off reactions with antibioticsi? Does the oxidative stress of these die off reactions have negative consequences to the immune system, neurological system and key infection opposing nutrient levels? For how long do we want to take antibiotics?

These are reasonable questions to ask.

It is important to understand that:

1.) No one knows which CAP combination is optimal.
2.) No one knows how long to treat. 3 months? 12 months? 3 years? Longer?
3.) No one knows if the infection can be cleared...clearing every elementary body, every cryptic, every reticulocyte form? Is that a realistic expectation?
4.) No one knows how many other infections are present and whether it might be better to begin with those, such as by using antivirals, before starting CAP.
5.) No one knows what impact geneticsi are playing in these infections and few people know how to compensate for genetic predisposing factors (e.g supporting methylation defects helps to oppose infection).

People need to be realistic when they are considering CAP treatment and make sure they are not approaching these infections with the expectation that taking multiple antibiotics for a few months is going to restore their vitality. Please be sure to mention that you and I have seen CAP fail.

I have seen antiviral therapy work tremendously well with some who have failed CAP. That means something. I have seen people recovering faster with sauna, Iodoral and infection-opposing nutrients (weeks rather than months) and that is why I may start with these. When people are done having die off with these measures, they tolerate antivirals and antibiotics better and can get back to working and living full lives faster.

If someone comes to me with a 2/10 ratings of their energy and depleted levels of essential nutrients and hormones, the worst thing I can do is send their energy to 0/10 by increasing the demands on their system through premature initiation of antibiotic therapy. I have patients who say that the T3, Vitamin D and infrared sauna have had the largest impact on their health. Some patients respond best to antiviral medication while others respond best to NACi, Zithro, Flagyli. Some patients seem to respond better to NAC, Rifampin, Doxyi, Nifedipine. Some patients do very well with IM or IV gammaglobulin if they are hypogammaglobulinemic. Last week I saw a gentleman who failed CAP and antiviral therapy, but he has returned to work feeling better in years after adding niacin">i therapy. A recent study from Harvard confirms the antibacterial and antiviral properties of niacin, but liver enzymes need to be watched if the dose is increased about the RDA. The doctor can not know in 2008 which modality will work best because we do not know who we are dealing with in terms of these mixed infections and varied genetic mutations.

Starting treatment by restoring depleted nutrient levels before starting antibiotics is not a bad idea. Running into battle with your nutritional levels around your ankles is short sighted and likely to cost you more in than preparing properly and building a strong defense before going for the antibiotics and antivirals. I would be surprised if most of the people who dropped out after I recommended sauna actually tried sauna twice daily for 20 minutes as recommended. I have had so many patients swear by this benign method and I have seen recovery occur much faster for those who do daily sauna. Seriously, people tend to respond in weeks rather than months if they are doing daily sauna therapy.

In summary, there is no proof that even 3 years of CAP will clear Cpn in humans. I have seen CAP work wonders for those whose illness is linked to Cpn or other polymorphic bacterial infections, which is why I continue to recommend this important therapy. It is wise to minimize antibiotic exposure as much as possible and most patients want to transition from antibiotics to infection opposing supplementsi as soon as possible. There is no test that can prove to the patient or the physician that Cpn or any other chronic infection is eradicated, so we are forced to use clinical symptoms as a guide. Herpes viruses persist forever, but when herpes is in remission people do not feel the infection. It may be that this is also true for Cpn.

We believe the best way to address these infections and restore health is to begin by strengthening the immune system rather than stress the patient's system in the initial stages of treatment. We have tried it both ways and we have better results by starting treatment with measures that support methylation, restore depleted nutrients, increase body temperature and WBC function. Then when the die off from these measures has subsided, antivirals and antibiotics are discussed and can be started more safely. I can't say this enough times, there is no proof that you can ever clear these infections or even know how many different organisms are involved. Check the websites for Lyme, Mycoplasma and other occult infections...relapse is very common. That is why we think it is essential to build one's defenses and improve immune function as the primary focus of therapy. It is wishful thinking to presume that 6-12 months of CAP will restore health in most fatigued patients. If only it were that simple.

Best regards,

Michael Powell, D.O.