Cpnhelp.org - Chlamydia Pneumoniae Treatment

Hi Q, Welcome.   Cpni is a stealth infection an you don't get to know about it until you get to feel not quite right and gradually get ill with a variety of symptoms.   Cpn is a bacterium which can be treated but by the time we have had it for a few years, the treatment takes time.

You don't say what your diagnosis is, cpn can cause all kinds of diseasesi.   I'm not sure what your illness is so cannot say about the mould.

Michèle (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAPi 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi, At worse EDSSi 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

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Michèle (UK) GFAi: Wheldon CAPi 1st May 2006. Daily Doxyi, Azi MWF, metroi pulse. Zoo keeper for Ella, RRMSi, At worse EDSSi 9, 3 months later 7 now 5.5 Wheldon CAP 16th March 2006

I've got Epstein Barr, my adrenals and hormones are out of wack and Chronic Fatigue.  I tend to get sick easy and stay sick for a while.. also I get achy all over alot if I exert myself too much (and it doesn't take much anymore)  It seems the last 6 years(I'm 40 now)  have been a big progression down hill.

prior to this new doc.. most of them through up their arms and say I'm depressed.. which never explained the illness.  at least now I have answers. 

  I'm amazed and overwhelmed at the antibiotic treatments.  My doc have me some NADh and some D-Ribose to help with energy, it works good, maybe a bit too good as sometimes it's hard to sleep through the nite. 

it's a bit overwhelming all this, plus I dont have alot of time to study  

 this site becasue I"m working 45 hours a week on a computer and  I its not fun being in front of one on my day off.    baby steps. thanks for being here.

qkcam

 

 

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

qkcam -- I have another thread going in which I complain about the same thing. I keep getting sick and the least amount of effort makes me sick again. I guess our immunei systems are just too exhausted, overwhelmed, to fight off everyday germs. Also, I react very strongly to molds although the allergy tests say that I do not have a histamine reaction to them. I.E. our bodies are having an immune system reaction to them, identifying them as enemies.

 

PPMSi-misdiagnosed 5 years-diagnosed last spring. Minocycline 7 mos.- resulting bronchitis 5 months. Talked Hopkins neuroi. into: HRT (estriol and progesterone as neural protectant re Voskuhl,UCLA).Wheldon CAPi 3/2/07 - 200 doxyi; azith MWF. Rockville,Md.

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PPMSi-misdiagnosed 2001-diagnosed 2006. Also maybe csf and Lyme -- who knows?! Minocycline 7 mos.- resulting bronchitis 5 months. Deserted by Hopkins neurology dept. and going to private md. out-of-plan. Wheldon CAPi 3/2/07 - 200 doxyi; azith MWF. 5 pulses.

for immunei support my doctor told me about IMMPower.  I've been trying it for a while and I think it kinda helps- expenisve though I found it at Vitamin Shoppe for $25 a bottle   anyone else try this stuff? it's a mushroom

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

I used various immunei stimulators for years before the Cpni CAPi. I rarely need them now, and few really helped much (other than Vit C when getting a cold and NK stim when my count was low). Why? Because Cpn infects the immune cells (macrophages, white cells, etc) and bone marrow (which makes the immune cells) rendering your immune system inadequate. As I cleared my cells of Cpn, my immune system improved significantly. I rarely get viruses now (knock on virtual wood). It takes time to clear the bone marrow, but free circulating immune cells seem to improve more rapidly. The CAP will help this stuff a lot. 

CAP for Cpn 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi, 500mg MWF Azith, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3

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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

these things at the bottom of post: 

CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSii & FMSii. Protocol: 200mg Doxyii, 500mg MWF Azith, Tiniii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3

what are they?? this that your cure?

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

 That's called a "signature" and you set it up in "my account/edit" page (from the left sidebar menu). We ask people to put in their main diagnosis, when they started the CAPi if they are on it, meds being used. Some people put more info in than others. 

CAP for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi, 500mg MWF Azith, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3

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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

 That's called a "signature" and you set it up in "my account/edit" page (from the left sidebar menu). We ask people to put in their main diagnosis, when they started the CAPi if they are on it, meds being used. Some people put more info in than others. 

CAP for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi, 500mg MWF Azith, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3

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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

cool  thanks! I'm not sure what my all my dx is I know Cpni and CFSi, and sometimes it feels like carpet in my lungs. is that a diagnosis?  also feels like getting arhtritis and I'm only 40.  - heart palpations too.. alot of stuff.

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

When Jim, when?!

 

PPMSi-misdiagnosed 2001-diagnosed 2006. Minocycline 7 mos.- resulting bronchitis 5 months. Talked Hopkins neuroi. into: HRT (estriol and progesterone as neural protectant re Voskuhl,UCLA).Wheldon CAPi 3/2/07 - 200 doxyi; azith MWF. 4 pulses. Rockville,Md. Loo

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PPMSi-misdiagnosed 2001-diagnosed 2006. Also maybe csf and Lyme -- who knows?! Minocycline 7 mos.- resulting bronchitis 5 months. Deserted by Hopkins neurology dept. and going to private md. out-of-plan. Wheldon CAPi 3/2/07 - 200 doxyi; azith MWF. 5 pulses.

glad you hear you've had success with treatment and doing alot better it sounds.    I'll talk to my doc about CAP  -he was  did you talk all that at the same time? 

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

qkcam, You mean does Jim take all that at the same time? The answer is probably yes, although he has added a few things to the basic protocol, which is usually doxycycline 200mg daily, azithromycin 250mg on mon, weds, fridays only, and later on, imagining a 28 day month, on days 22 through 26 you add metronidazolei or tinidazole at 1200 to 1500mg daily(depending on the size of pills available in your country) to the mix. Also, the list of supplementsi (which you can find here in the handbook or on David Wheldoni's pages outlining the entire protocol.

The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.  Mohandas Gandhi

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The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems. Mohandas Gandhi

Wecome, QCam.  I am on the combination antibiotic protocol.  It has helpd me emensely.  I understand about the depression label.  It was the reason that I waited so long to find a doctor to take all the possible causes of fatigue into consideration prior to looking for treatment.  I thought it could be many things in combination including aging.  And what was found was CPni and eventually Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb).  I am on the Wheldon Variation which is serving me very well.  I am no longer "depressed - like".  I continue to get stronger and clearer.  Looking forward to more of your topic posts.  Louise

CFSi/ME.CPn positive.Bb positive.

6/24/07WheldonCAPstartedDoxy&NACi.

11/3/07Roxi150mgBIDadded.

11/22/07#2PulseTinidazole500mgBIDadded.

11/27/07CholestyraminePostPulse/PorphoriaSymptomsAdded.

1/15/08 Cont.Cholesty.atBedtimeForFatigue,Brainfog,mood.

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Louise   CFSi Began Wheldon CAPi 6/07, Occ. Cholestyramine1-2packets HS/forporphoria&endotoxini sxi, S.O.D.3TID(KAL Brand),VitD3-4000IU, MagnascentIodine 8gtts 1-2x/d, Doxy100BID,Roxi150BID,Tini500mg BIDpulses,CPnPos,BbPos.

Artile- I can only guess by looking at my increased resistance to colds in the family, but from the 6 month mark to about a year or so my resistance appeared to increase. I assume that I was getting at bone marrow Cpni. It was gradually occuring, of course, from the start, but most noticeable then.

In fact, one of the cautions in using a more aggressive CAPi protocol is that it can cause neutropenia (crashing white cell count) from mass apoptosisi of infected immunei cells. I know of one case where a man taking Rifamycin-- a very potent antichlamydial-- had to be hospitalized to protect from infection until his white count came back up.  

CAP for Cpn 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Protocol: 200mg Doxyi, 500mg MWF Azith, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D1000 units, Cytotec 100mg, Plaquenil 100mg, Magnascent Iodine 12 drps/day, T4 & T3

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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dx: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 150mg BID Roxithromycin, Doxycycline 100mg BID, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3

Thanks Jim for that insight regarding possible neutropenia with agressive CAPi treatment.  One more vote for moderation in my opinion.

Louise CFSi/ME.CPni positive.Bb positive.

6/24/07WheldonCAPstartedDoxy&NACi.1

1/3/07Roxi150mgBIDadded.

11/22/07#2PulseTinidazole500mgBIDadded.

11/27/07CholestyraminePostPulse/PorphoriaSymptomsAdded.

1/15/08 Cont.Cholesty.atBedtimeForFatigue,Brainfog,mood.

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Louise   CFSi Began Wheldon CAPi 6/07, Occ. Cholestyramine1-2packets HS/forporphoria&endotoxini sxi, S.O.D.3TID(KAL Brand),VitD3-4000IU, MagnascentIodine 8gtts 1-2x/d, Doxy100BID,Roxi150BID,Tini500mg BIDpulses,CPnPos,BbPos.