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hi,

 curious, what did you test (blood, urine, swab) that you came up positive for candida krusei?  so now youre taking ketoconazole pills?  i could be wrong, but i THINK candida krusei is resistant to this anti-fungal..  i did some elaborate research a few years ago after i cultured my tongue (i had a CHRONIC white coating) and came up positive for this organism..  i tried liquid nystatin and oral fluconazole with NO help and when researched, i found C. Krusei is resistant to both..  well, i found a new anti-fungal (paid $500 for a month supply) called posaconazole that was effective for it..  long story short, the liquid posaconazole helped for a short time (cleared my tongue) but eventually it came back...  fungus is HARD to battle and with my low immunei function it made or is making it (i still have a white tongue) even harder.   i am really HOPING reducing my bacterial loadi will boost my immune system (i have low WBC and CD4) and help me keep the fungus at bay..  well, i hope this helps, but again i am curious what test you had (blood, urine)?  here is a great site for fungal medications http://www.doctorfungus.org/thedrugs/Fluconazole.htm

also, last time we talked you were having a reaction to doxycycline..  are you currently off antibioticsi?  how are you feeling?

Keith

Doxy 100mg 2X's/day; Zithro 500mg MWF; Flagyli Pulses; NACi 2400mg; Testosterone 200mg; Armour thyroid 3 grains; Cortef 15mg; life extension vitamin/minerals

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Doxyi 100mg q12hr; Biaxin 500mg q12hr; Amoxicillini 500mg q12hr;  Armour 1 grain; T3;  Cortef 15mg; 4000 units Vitamin Di; Ursodiol; prescription enzymes; life extension vitamin/minerals

Keith I used a stool sample and sent it to a lab called Genova or Great Smokies Lab.    The test is called comprehensive parasitology.   And you could ask an acupunturist.. they also access the tongue.   Good luck.

  I'm doing better in some ways off the doxyi.. no more horrible burning, but my energy has crashed.  thanks for asking.

  I get up at 445am and get home from work at 415.pm and there is nothing left of me.    I'm getting a bit depressed maybe from the Keto or just from being tired all the time. 
I have an appt with Dr. Powell in  a couple weeks, but I'm also recovering from a neck injury and not sure that I am physically up for the drive.  It's only about 1 to 2 hours each way,  but that plus 1/2 day a work . 

guess i'm a whiner today.   sorry, just exhausted.  good nite.

EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

hi,

 i actually have an appointment with Dr. P too..  i am HOPING he can shed some light on my treatment.. 

as for you taking Keto, i guess the point i was trying to make is it most likely will NOT kill that organism..  also, it is loaded with side effects (my aunt took it years ago became hepa toxic).  did Dr Powell prescribe?  its such an old drug i cant believe he or who ever did prescribe keto wouldnt have choosen  fluconazole (not so expensive now that it has generic)..  well, on paper they both seem to be resistent to Candida Krusei, but treatment might help you..   be careful with the keto and let me/us know how you do with it... 

Keith

Doxyi 100mg 2X's/day; Zithro 500mg MWF; Flagyli Pulses; NACi 2400mg; Testosterone 200mg; Armour thyroid 3 grains; Cortef 15mg; life extension vitamin/minerals

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Doxyi 100mg q12hr; Biaxin 500mg q12hr; Amoxicillini 500mg q12hr;  Armour 1 grain; T3;  Cortef 15mg; 4000 units Vitamin Di; Ursodiol; prescription enzymes; life extension vitamin/minerals

I hope your aunt is better. I've read some scary stories about Keto. And honestly I don't feel too comfortable taking it.   the Doc.. not Powell said he would monitor my liver in 2 weeks.    I might just stop since you seem to think it wont work for this type of candidia.. I just want to get better.   Is fluconazole  safer?  

Good luck with Powell.  

EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.

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EBVi;hvs6; CPNi igGi 1024; HEP C in remission;high lead and mercury counts; medically senstive; medication. 2.5mg lexpro 3 x a week; vital ingreidents multivitamin;nadh;was taking corvalen Dribose, but i coulnd't sleep although it helped with energy.<

YES!  fluconazole is safer and now that the patent ran out its not so expensive either..  if you have insurance you'll have nothing to worry about, but i dont that why i always think in price. 

to be honest, i dont know dr powell, but i didnt THIINK he'd prescribe that med..  its older and fluconazole has pretty much controlled the market because its safter.  honestly, next time you see him just print out (use the dr fungus site) showing him that the organism is resistant to it Krusei.  dr's displace "culture/sensitivity" testing and then they prescribe the wrong agent.. 

i researched natural agents effective for krusei years ago and i remember there were a few that worked on it.   google it.  i just did and came up with this abstract below.  i also thought oregano or thyme oil was effective for it.  you'd be surprised what natural agents are EFFECTIVE for fungus/yeast.  MOST doctors wont suggest them because  its NOT in their best interest $$$$. 

also, a little other info i know about Ketoconazole is it can lower sex drive and create gyno (enlarged breast tissue)..   it blocks testosterone and also your adrenal hormones..  about 15-20 years ago some people used it for hair loss (adrogenic conditions) because it lowered hormones..  it wasnt common as it was before the propecia era.  some people we're desperate i guess.. well, i dont want to scare you, but really go to your physician with some info about Krusei resistance to keto..  he'll respect you for doing your homework and hopefully he'll do his homework before prescribing the next agent..  good luck, let me know what the outcome is..

also, if i can give you ANY advice it would be try to educate yourself on your possible illness and treatment..  i know its hard being ill..  i would come home from work and TRY to take things in (researching on line) and 90% of the time i had too much brain fog to take any of the info in..  because dr's do NOT know everything and some know VERY little about complicated illness..  i think 99% of the people on this site can attest to have gone through painful stages of INCOMPETENT physicians..  also, always question what you put in your body..  ESPECIALLY if you have CFSi, Fibro, etc., because EVERYTHING seems to affect us MORE and remember for every action there is a reaction and MANY pharmaceuticals have profound REACTIONS!  well, again, below is the abstract.. i just did a brief google search and a medical journal appeared..  Millintonia horensis is a plant of some sort...   good luck and let me know of any progress on antifungals...

i also want to state that i am in NO way advising you to stop the med..  i am just speaking from exerience..  i would talk to ur physician about it..  when do you see powell?  he can probablly shed some light on it..

Keith

Antifungal activities of different extracts of Millingtonia hortensis were investigated against various fungal pathogens. Methanol extract was found to have stronger activity than fluconazole against yeast like fungi: 4 fold against Candida krusei with 4 µg/ml minimal inhibitory concentration and 2 fold (MIC- 2 µg/ml) against Sacharomyces cerevisiae , though it showed the same activity as fluconazole against Candida glabrata . Aqueous extract also exhibited 4 fold stronger activity against Candida krusei (MIC- 4 µg/ml) and 4 fold (MIC; 2 µg/ml) against Sacharomyces cerevisiae . Chloroform and ethyl acetate extract showed lower activities against all fungal pathogens except for Candida krusei, compared with the standard. Against the filamentous fungus, Trichosporon cutaneum , all extracts showed less activity than the standard.

Doxyi 100mg 2X's/day; Zithro 500mg MWF; Flagyli Pulses; NACi 2400mg; Testosterone 200mg; Armour thyroid 3 grains; Cortef 15mg; life extension vitamin/minerals

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Doxyi 100mg q12hr; Biaxin 500mg q12hr; Amoxicillini 500mg q12hr;  Armour 1 grain; T3;  Cortef 15mg; 4000 units Vitamin Di; Ursodiol; prescription enzymes; life extension vitamin/minerals