This didn't seem to be in our list of diseasesi, but Dianna, my new, tireless googler of all things chlamydial, found it: http://www.smokershistory.com/cpaaa.htm They may have an ax to grind, but the number of papers cited seems pretty convincing.
When I link that information with David's http://www.davidwheldon.co.uk/chl_vasc.html (he mentions aneurism), where he describes the wide pulse pressure that develops with C.Pn., and with Peckerman's tilt-table results that show CFSi is characterised by diastolic dystrophy, it sounds even more likely.
I know (but can't remember from where) that AAA's are most likely to occur at a point about one-half wavelength above the bifurcation of the aorta (where it splits to form the femoral arteries.) That's where the "echo" bouncing back from the split meets and reinforces the pulse coming down from the heart. It seems plausible that the stiffened aorta would make a sharper pulse and echo, and also can't "soak up" the shock wave at that point the way it should.
Scary.
Ron
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Ron
On CAPii for CFSi starting 01/06 (NE Ohio, USA)
Began rifampin trial 1/14/09
Currently: on intermittent
If this list doesn't
If this list doesn't convince you of the connection between Cpni and heart/vascular diseasei, I don't know what will. Thanks for this great find, Ron. We'll integrate some of these abstracts into our research section.
I'll be interested to hear David's comments on this, since it is the vascular component he treated in himself with the Cpn protocol.
On Wheldon/Stratton protocol for Cpn in CFSi/FMSi since December 2004.
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CAPi for Cpni 11/04. Dxi: 25yrs CFSi & FMSi. Currently: 250 aithromycin mwf, doxycycline 100mg BIDi, Tinii 1000mg/day pulses; Vit D2000 units, T4 & T3, 12mg Iodoral
Food for thought here. When
Food for thought here. When you see the aorta of someone with bad arteriopathy you just wonder how they survived so long; it's rigid, brittle and calcified. The pulse must go down it like a hammer-blow. Yet the stiffening begins surprisingly early in life, and is associated with raised cpni antibodies. The pathology is worst in the areas of greatest stress, as you say, Ron.
Just a minor note, but not as off-topic as might be supposed. It's sometimes the smaller and less obvious pieces of evidence which set you thinking the hardest; possibly because they are unanticipated. Like many people in mid life I had a progressive deterioration in eye refractive function; this had started in about 1985 and slowly and steadily got worse. Two-yearly visits to the optician resulted in prescriptions for ever-stronger lenses. After taking antibioticsi and supplementsi, I found that this deterioration of refraction stopped. On my last visit to the optician he said 'That's amazing: your refraction is improving.' It's true; I could read lines on the chart I couldn't read three years ago. So unexpected. But if this resolution takes place in tissues all over the body, what might that mean? A lot of events we put down to aging might be due to chronic infection.
David
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D W - [Myalgia and hypertensioni (typically 155/95.) Began (2003) taking doxycycline and macrolide and later adding metronidazolei. No medication now; just supplementsi and IR sauna. Morning BP typically 105/75]
David, the same is true
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Cured of multiple sclerosisi, stopped the Wheldon's protocol in Nov,2008, but still occasionally pulsing. EDSSi 0 for over 6 years.
Ice, that's very funny!
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D W - [Myalgia and hypertensioni (typically 155/95.) Began (2003) taking doxycycline and macrolide and later adding metronidazolei. No medication now; just supplementsi and IR sauna. Morning BP typically 105/75]
You don't think they help!
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Cured of multiple sclerosisi, stopped the Wheldon's protocol in Nov,2008, but still occasionally pulsing. EDSSi 0 for over 6 years.
My abdominal aorta has
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minocycline, azithromycine, metronidazolei 2007-2009, chelation for lead poisoning, Lauricidin: muscle pain, insomnia, interstitial cystitisi (almost well), sinus, dry eyes, stiff neck, veins, hypothyroid, TMJ, hip joints (all well now)
Very interesting. The MSi
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Feeling 95% well-going for 100. Still testing + for Cpni. CAPi since 8-05 for Cpn/Mycoplasma P.for MSi and/or CFSi. Also EBVi and HHV6. Amoxy,Doxyi, Azith, Tinii pulses. NACi, Iodoral,
T3, BHRT, MethyB12 injections,Nitro patch,A wishbone pattern of pain
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minocycline, azithromycine, metronidazolei 2007-2009, chelation for lead poisoning, Lauricidin: muscle pain, insomnia, interstitial cystitisi (almost well), sinus, dry eyes, stiff neck, veins, hypothyroid, TMJ, hip joints (all well now)
You know raven....I have
You know raven....I have noticed also the 'not being out of breath' when taking a long drink of water! I also noticed that splashing cold water on my face in the a.m. doesn't shock me anymore or set my ears to ringing.
Geez...It makes me wonder...just how long HAVE I been this way? Probably since before the msi dxi.
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Wheldon Protocol for rrmsi since Oct '05. Added LDN 4.5mg qhs Oct '07. All supp's. Positive IGGi's for Lyme Disease,Babesia, & Erlichiosis Sept. 2008. Currently: Mepron 750mg bid and Azithromycin 250mg qdi for Babesia.
Interesting trend here --
Interesting trend here -- my wife has just moved my "start date" back about 8 years, based on some of the subtler symptoms that people here have reported. I wonder how I'll recognize normal when I get there.
And I wonder how many of us will start to see things we didn't associate with this disease process as a part of the whole CPni picture?
Ron
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Ron
On CAPi for CFSi starting 01/06 (NE Ohio, USA)
Began rifampin trial 1/14/09
Currently: on intermittent