13th pulse--suspect my error

I'm on my 5th day of 13th pulse.  As I've said in the past, I've not had any improvement and have declined in abilities.  For example, it has become very difficult to get my rollator out of my van to the point of going weeks without getting out of the house.   When I started CAPi last year I had a VERY scary reaction to Niacin">i.  I read that I should use a non-flushing form of niacin, but I never did -- I just eliminated taking niacin completley.  In reading recent posts yesterday regarding the importance of niacin, I'm wondering if this could be why I've had no positive reactions.  If this is the case, I'm so MAD at ME!!!  Did I goof??  PLEASE REPLY.  

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Came across this article on

Came across this article on niacinamide being beneficial to the liver. I also read that it repairs nerve damage at high doses. I have taken as much as 3,000mgs a day but could only tolerate 100 mgs of regular niacin. The flush and skin itching is just too uncomfortable.At one time I also took prescription niacin(Niaspan) for a few months as an antichlamydial.

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There are three types of

There are three types of "no-flush" niacin">i. One is the slow-release stuff, which is regular niacin inside a pill that releases it slowly. That's the one which is bad for the liver (or, at least, the one which is known to be bad for the liver). The other two are niacinamide and inositol hexanicotinate, which are different molecules. I haven't seen them mentioned as liver risks, but don't know whether that's because they aren't liver risks, or because nobody's studied them enough to tell whether or not they are liver risks, or whether I just haven't happened to run into the information.

Norman I seem to recall that

Norman I seem to recall that in the discussion about the non-flush niacin">i that there was some sort of concern about it's affects on maybe the liver was it?  Louise

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That sort of no-flush

That sort of no-flush niacin">i is inositol hexanicotinate, which is a different molecule (an inositol molecule bonded to six niacin molecules via covalent bonds) whose properties don't seem to have been studied much. It's not likely that it's much use against Cpni.

The flushing is unpleasant and can be scary, but is harmless. It commonly goes away after one has been taking niacin regularly for a while. In my case, strangely, it mostly went away when I increased the dose from 500 mg/day to 2 grams/day: I still get a bit of skin tingling on occasion from it, but nothing like the boiled-lobster look I had when I first took it. The flushing may even be beneficial; I've noticed that the amount of flushing I get seems to correlate well with die-off symptoms.

One thing that can be done to minimize the social downsides of the flush is to take it before bedtime and sleep through the flush.

I recall some discussion

I recall some discussion that the flushing is the niacin">i doing something in the capillaries. At an advanced stage of cpni eradication, maybe it wouldn't cause a severe flush. I usually take the niacin at bedtime. The redness scares my husband, too. I think regular niacin works somewhat like INHi, but is much easier on the liver and needs no prescription.

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Clammed_up, I seem to recall

Clammed_up, I seem to recall that there are some concerns regarding the no flush version of niacin">i in higher dosages, I believe that there have been conversations here in the past year or two regarding this.  I cannot recall the exact nature of the concern but it was something to difinitely consider when making the choice to use it.  Perhaps someone who recalls that information will post about it for you, I recall it was something detrimental if I am recalling it correctly.  Louise . 

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Hi louiseI use "natural

Hi louise

I use "natural factors no flush" niacin">i 500 mg per capsule @ 4x a day. I'm not sure what dose i should be taking but I usually just randomly try things and continue with what works. I'm a fan of niacin, but i really need to do more research on metabolic pathways of all these supplementsi, abxi and adjacents so i can get functional and optimal metabolism from each.

This is the exact product i use

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I will be interested in

I will be interested in knowing how many here are actually using niacin">i in therapeutic dosage ( more than part of a b complex vit.)   I have a bottle and tried it some time ago mostly to see if I could get some mental clarity from the vasodilitation effect.   I just go BEET red.  I tried it several times.  The first two alone and since I knew it would pass I just endure the extended hotflash like effect.   The third time my hubby got really frightened when he saw the extent of the flushing.  I saw now benefit and have not taken it regularly and I decreased my bacterial loadi and am doing quite well now approaching the two year mark.  Of course my Dxi is not SPMSi but just to say I never realized that niacin was a fundamental and recommended part of either Stratton or Wheldon programs.    Louise

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